Do you still have faith in Pharoahe Monch?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:03 am

If so, here's the new tracklist for all you Desire lovers out there. Officially drops Oct. 26.

01 Intro/Skit f. Idris Elba
02 Evolve
03 W.A.R. f. Vernon Reid
04 Clap
05 The Hitman
06 Black Hand Side f. Styles P & Phonte
07 Let My People Go
08 Shine (feat. Mela Machinko)
09 Haile Selassie Karate f. Denaun Porter
10 Assassins f. Jean Grae & Royce Da 5ג9″
11I llusions
12 Mamaגs Boy
13 Still Standing f. Jill Scott

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:07 am

Definitely have faith. Still waiting for all the production credits, but Pharoahe hasn't disappointed yet.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:08 am

I predict 4 decent-good tracks and 3 keep-able iPad tracks. We'll see...

hellriser · Post by **hellriser** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:14 am

i dont like desire at all - hope this will be better

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:10 am

Desire grown on me and I think it's a pretty damn good album. Much different from his previous stuff, and not as good, but still enjoyable. Hopefully this album has a darker feel. He can definately still spit better than most.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:37 am

This could be good. I liked 'Desire.'

axel foley · Post by **axel foley** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:45 am

depends on production

Hair of the Dog · Post by **Hair of the Dog** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:50 am

Philaflava wrote:I predict 4 decent-good tracks and 3 keep-able iPad tracks. We'll see...

this seems about right.....the ceiling is probably about 7-8 good tracks, there will definitely be some clunker in there though.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:17 am

shine song wasn't the greatest overall, but his verses were on point

his guest spot on that consequence song was pretty good

the toca tuesdays freestyle i posted a lil while ago was dope

i saw him brought out as a surprise guest at a Jay Electronica show and his 2 min freestyle pretty much upstaged the headliner

so yeah, i got some faith

Me Still · Post by **Me Still** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:22 am

I still have faith in dude. But I don't expect to be blown away. 3 or 4 good tracks sounds about right. What label is coming out on?? The only reason I ask cuz it can determine what type of beats and what type of songs he is doing. I wish dudes would just make hiphop songs not push some envelope on the listener...

KITFUNK · Post by **KITFUNK** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:36 am

^ It's dropping on Duck Down

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:09 pm

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:36 pm

Hell no.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:39 pm

There is zero chance that this will be anything other than complete forgettable garbage.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:47 pm

Stringer Bell on the intro.

rawunkut · Post by **rawunkut** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:56 pm

i'll take the "bring it on/stress/13" monch over the neo soul monch any day of the week

i'll take the "bring it on/stress/13" monch over the neo soul monch any day of the week

i'll take the "bring it on/stress/13" monch over the neo soul monch any day of the week

that said, this will prolly be a neo-soul record

Mindbender Futurama · Post by **Mindbender Futurama** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:00 pm

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Stringer Bell on the intro.

i posted a fucking sick ass song he made with 9th Wonder here... and it got locked. it's wicked, don't sleep.

Secretly, Idris Elba is better on the mic than like 90% of the people making music right now, straight up.

<object width="445" height="364"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hsqJOTGlJcs?fs ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hsqJOTGlJcs?fs ... 6&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="445" height="364"></embed></object>

CHA!

Thun wrote:There is zero chance that this will be anything other than complete forgettable garbage.

whoa! that's a little harsh, brah.

it will be good, and possibly show flashes of greatness, but probably won't be the classic we all want.

i didn't think 'Shine' was that great of a song, but that verse Monch did at Tony Touch is seriously one of the illest verses dropped this year

<object width="400" height="225"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id= ... y=0&loop=0" /><embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id= ... y=0&loop=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="225"></embed></object>

so yes, i have some hope

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:05 pm

Album will probably just be a forty degree day.

bmore21225 · Post by **bmore21225** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:16 pm

I have faith in him and will support this as he is better than most people out there.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:24 pm

Let's face it, if you have Jill Scott on your album in 2010 your career is on life support and going fast.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:01 pm

yea but consider the alternative - a female guest spot indicative of a healthy career is nicky minaj

i guess sharon jones could be a reasonable compromise between those extremes?

Rhymes4Day · Post by **Rhymes4Day** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:07 pm

All his other albums have been good. I do not expect him to fail.

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:20 pm

Come on, guys.

Yes, he's PHAROAHE MONCH. Yes, he was in Organized Konfusion. Yes, he made "Internal Affairs."

But you can't seriously believe that he is capable of making a solid record in 2010. He couldn't make one in 2006 and he won't be able to do it 4 years later. It might have one or two decent songs on it but there is no way he will make a "new classic."

B-Real released an album on Duck Down too, ya know.

Echo Leader · Post by **Echo Leader** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:21 pm

Also,

Thun wrote:Let's face it, if you have Jill Scott on your album in 2010 your career is on life support and going fast.

Gurped Out · Post by **Gurped Out** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:00 pm

Monch is a beast on the mic, but that does not always translate to a good album. I will check it out though.

sun ra · Post by **sun ra** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:58 pm

Philaflava wrote:I predict 4 decent-good tracks and 3 keep-able iPad tracks. We'll see...

you're generous.

will download and see, chances are small..

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/a1Q_22t3EHQ?fs ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/a1Q_22t3EHQ?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:01 pm

that was a pretty good show considering it was free

literaly 10 min walk from where i live

sun ra · Post by **sun ra** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:11 pm

the show was good, of course.
but listening to monch in 2010 is like going back in time, and that's not the point anymore, or maybe not for me.

sun ra · Post by **sun ra** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:19 pm

so the album is produced by diamond d

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/I5_A-d4JdKs?fs ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/I5_A-d4JdKs?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:59 pm

^^that song is, not the whole album. My expectations are low but whatever, hopefully I'm wrong.