I've already posted this in TROY, but I know a lot of folks steer clear due to ...well, I suppose this is pretty borktastic but I know there are a few Cann-O fans in M2C as well so whatever. At least a couple folks might be interested.
Anyway, I'm trying to hunt down the non-album Cannibal Ox tracks and some of them are damn near impossible to find. I've sifted through a lotta dead Rapidshare links...what can I say, I suck at the internets. Here's a list of all the non-album jawns Vordul and Vast recorded that weren't on "The Cold Vein:"
- Metal Gear (Cannibal Ox, F-Word EP)
- Life's Ill (Cannibal Ox, F-Word EP)
- Vein (Cold Cryptic Remix) (Cannibal Ox, Return of the Ox: Live @ CMJs)
- From The Planet of Eat (Cannibal Ox, Return of the Ox: Live @ CMJs)
- Cosmos (Cannibal Ox & Rob Swift, Cosmos 12")
- Life's Ill, Part 2 (Vast Aire, Look Mom...No Hands)
- Bloodsport (Might Joseph, Empire State)
- Mecca & The Ox (Vast Aire, Deuces Wild)
- F-Word (RJD2 Remix) (Def Jux' Bucket of B-Sides)
- Handle That (Vordul Mega, The Revolution of Yung Havoks)
- Cannibal JFK (Vordul Mega, Yung World)
- AK-47 (Vordul Mega, Megagraphitti)
- Atoms All-Stars (Atoms Family, The Prequel)
- Not For Promotional Use (Atoms Family, The Prequel)
- Lemmie Atom! (Atoms Family, The Atoms Archives 2)
As far as I know, that's all of 'em. I'm probably missing some radio freestyles and acetate-only blends by obscure Icelandic DJs and shit but oh well. Any help at all would be appreciated.
Still missing wrote:
- Metal Gear (Cannibal Ox, F-Word EP)
- Life's Ill (Cannibal Ox, F-Word EP)
- Vein (Cold Cryptic Remix) (Cannibal Ox, Return of the Ox: Live @ CMJs)
- Cosmos (Cannibal Ox & Rob Swift, Cosmos 12")
- Bloodsport (Might Joseph, Empire State)
- Mecca & The Ox (Vast Aire, Deuces Wild)
- Handle That (Vordul Mega, The Revolution of Yung Havoks)
- Cannibal JFK (Vordul Mega, Yung World)
- Atoms All-Stars (Atoms Family, The Prequel)
- Not For Promotional Use (Atoms Family, The Prequel)
- Lemmie Atom! (Atoms Family, The Atoms Archives 2)
http://sharebee.com/40f199fb
- From The Planet of Eat (Cannibal Ox, Return of the Ox: Live @ CMJs)
- Life's Ill, Part 2 (Vast Aire, Look Mom...No Hands)
- F-Word (RJD2 Remix) (Def Jux' Bucket of B-Sides)
- AK-47 (Vordul Mega, Megagraphitti)
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Resolved Question
Does Biggie Smalls hate HipHop???
"Shoulda been a cop, Fukc Hiphop"
I've been wondering what he meant by this.
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Rap sucks, HipHop is better
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Naw, he likes hip hop and rap. He was just referring to if he hadn't started rapping he would've been a cop.
So he's cursing it, not that he doesn't like it, just for the sake of it.
Always thought the thought the beat was dope but too busy for rapping, or maybe it was just the mixing that made it seem that way...it just couldve been executed better.
:shrug: agree to disagree i guess. imo it's a great collection both as a label showcase of their talent and just a selection of good songs to compile, including one of the few eminem songs i can still listen to with a straight face. mixed together really well too
the mayor, brooklyn hard rock, when it rains it pours, 7xl, patriotism, crosstown beef - hard to front on that
drizzle wrote::shrug: agree to disagree i guess. imo it's a great collection both as a label showcase of their talent and just a selection of good songs to compile, including one of the few eminem songs i can still listen to with a straight face. mixed together really well too
the mayor, brooklyn hard rock, when it rains it pours, 7xl, patriotism, crosstown beef - hard to front on that
also, juggaknots is another artifact of the era i'd take over Can-ox, although you could maybe in some ways argue them as precursors more than active participators in the scene
I guess what I'm saying is that Cold Vein is surprisingly cohesive when you consider that it is associated with a scene that produced precious few critically lauded full-lengths. By the time it was released, the notion that a rap album that wasn't some overfunded overproduced multiplatinum celebrity and drama-driven lavish affair would captivate anyone's attention was pretty much dead.
The Juggaknots album on Fondle 'Em is a personal favorite of mine, but it will never be anything other than a quaint cult classic for committed aficianados. Cold Vein is the ambitious culmination of a lot of different stylistic developments, it is the achievement that the era/scene has "to show for itself" for posterity, imo.
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Thun wrote:I guess what I'm saying is that Cold Vein is surprisingly cohesive when you consider that it is associated with a scene that produced precious few critically lauded full-lengths. By the time it was released, the notion that a rap album that wasn't some overfunded overproduced multiplatinum celebrity and drama-driven lavish affair would captivate anyone's attention was pretty much dead.
oh you mean specifically in terms of full lengths
in that case cold vein is a good pick. but would you count Operation Doomsday as part of the same wave? if that's the case i'd rather go with that one
Thun wrote:I guess what I'm saying is that Cold Vein is surprisingly cohesive when you consider that it is associated with a scene that produced precious few critically lauded full-lengths. By the time it was released, the notion that a rap album that wasn't some overfunded overproduced multiplatinum celebrity and drama-driven lavish affair would captivate anyone's attention was pretty much dead.
oh you mean specifically in terms of full lengths
in that case cold vein is a good pick. but would you count Operation Doomsday as part of the same wave? if that's the case i'd rather go with that one
Doomsday is part of the same wave, and that contest is very close. But in a way Cold Vein seems more emblematic because it is so collaborative. The very vibe of the album speaks to forces coming together to create something greater than the sum, whereas Doomsday to me resonates as a broken man's highly personal, individual triumph over adversity.
i'd still go with doomsday because going exactly by your reasoning the weird loner thing just appeals to me more. but you have a very good point about the collaborative effort thing, both directly related to this album and as a commentary of the scene as a whole
Thun wrote:Doomsday is part of the same wave, and that contest is very close. But in a way Cold Vein seems more emblematic because it is so collaborative. The very vibe of the album speaks to forces coming together to create something greater than the sum, whereas Doomsday to me resonates as a broken man's highly personal, individual triumph over adversity.
Thun wrote:Doomsday is part of the same wave, and that contest is very close. But in a way Cold Vein seems more emblematic because it is so collaborative. The very vibe of the album speaks to forces coming together to create something greater than the sum, whereas Doomsday to me resonates as a broken man's highly personal, individual triumph over adversity.