Credit where Credit is Due....

Henessee Williams · Post by **Henessee Williams** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:17 am

If I was given a sample by someone for the intent of me flipping it and making a beat out of it....how do I technically give credit to the individual who found it for me. What is the right nomenclature for that kind of contribution?

associate producer? ???

There was little to no involvement beside playing a record and suggesting that it be manhandled by myself.
But I want to make sure that I give the proper and appropriate respect becasue I am grateful.

thanks mmmuarks.

Hasenfefer · Post by **Hasenfefer** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:23 am

honestly, i don't feel someone just pointing out a sample to you deserves any credit on the album. just my 2-

Henessee Williams · Post by **Henessee Williams** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:40 am

i do feel a little indebted though.
it for sure deserves a heavy shout out.

thanks

nestle quik · Post by **nestle quik** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:52 pm

co-produced

finding a sample is half the battle in production

Henessee Williams · Post by **Henessee Williams** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:00 pm

you think?

i dunno about that.

nestle quik · Post by **nestle quik** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:02 pm

no,its more like 25-35%

Hasenfefer · Post by **Hasenfefer** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:25 pm

Henessee Williams wrote:i do feel a little indebted though.
it for sure deserves a heavy shout out.

thanks

yes, shout outs for sure...production credit? not in my opinion. i've thrown samples to other producers to use and never expected credit for it. if it's a friend of yours that points out a dope sample, or a producer you work with that's just not into the sample and just throws it to you to flip they don't deserve co-producers credit....in my opinion.

nestle quik · Post by **nestle quik** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:36 pm

technically its part of production to find a sample

Hasenfefer · Post by **Hasenfefer** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:44 pm

nestle quik wrote:technically its part of production to find a sample

so if you download a set of drums off a website, you should give that website co-production credit on your track? if you buy a sample CD, you give the makers of that CD co-production credit on your track? i guess i better start adding craig's records as a co-producer on my tracks since the owner is always pulling shit out for me he know's i'd like.

nestle quik · Post by **nestle quik** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:55 pm

u didnt find the sample on ur own,cratedigging is definatly a part of production

Henessee Williams · Post by **Henessee Williams** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:39 am

technically Has is right.
finding the right sample is instrumental (no pun) in the composition, so a good shout out is in order.
In the end the sample becomes the tip of the iceberg in regards to the entire piece, so a co-production might be overzealous.

anyway, thanks y'all.

nestle quik · Post by **nestle quik** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:52 pm

co-produced is just a fancy term for a shout

it doenst have to mean u split the shit 50/50

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:27 pm

finding the sample has nothing to do with arranging it, thats like saying technically u should give co production credits to the original artist because they played it.

nestle quik · Post by **nestle quik** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:38 pm

its a cute idea but u know theres nothing u do that even remotely resembles a completely different song,even premiers tracks have easy to tell samples if u heard the song they came from