NFL Week 12 Thread

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:40 pm

THU, NOV 25
New England at Detroit 12:30 PM
New Orleans at Dallas 4:15 PM
Cincinnati at NY Jets 8:20 PM

SUN, NOV 28
Green Bay at Atlanta 1:00
Pittsburgh at Buffalo 1:00 PM
Carolina at Cleveland 1:00 PM
Jacksonville at NY Giants 1:00 PM
Minnesota at Washington 1:00 PM
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM
Kansas City at Seattle 4:05 PM
Miami at Oakland 4:05 PM
St. Louis at Denver 4:15 PM
Philadelphia at Chicago 4:15 PM
Tampa Bay at Baltimore 4:15 PM
San Diego at Indianapolis 8:20 PM

MON, NOV 29
San Francisco at Arizona

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:41 pm

http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articl ... story.html

Rivers, Rodgers make an assault on history
Cold, Hard Football Facts for November 23, 2010

Two statistical giants in the history of pro football percolate just beneath the surface of NFL elite quarterbacks right now.

Only a Super Bowl appearance will catapult them into the current limelight enjoyed by Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, who squared off in another classic on Sunday. And, naturally, a victory in that Super Bowl will elevate one over the other.

The two quarterbacks, of course, are San Diegoגs Philip Rivers and Green Bayגs Aaron Rodgers.

Both are fresh off monster efforts in Week 11.

Rivers completed 15 of 24 for 233 yards, with a career high 4 TDs and 1 pick in San Diegoגs 35-14 beat down of Denver Monday might.

Rodgers completed 22 of 31 for 301 yards, also with a career-high 4 TDs, and 0 picks, in a 31-3 humiliation of BrettFavre and the Vikings that forced Minnesota to fire head coach Brad Childress.

Both are in the midst of monster seasons.

Rivers is just tearing it up in so many ways right now: 23 TD, 9 INT and a great 105.0 passer rating. Itגs that rating number thatגs been so consistent: 105.5 in 2008, 104.4 in 2009 and now 105.0 here. But the number that really leaps off his stat sheet this year is the Montana-Esque 9.00 yards per attempt. And for those of you who care about things like yards, Rivers leads the NFL with 3,177 ג which puts him on pace for 5,083 for the season, one yard shy of Dan Marinoגs 1984 record.

Rodgers has been nothing but tremendous since he became the full-time starter in Green Bay in 2008. His 103.2 passer rating in 2009 was the highest by any Packers quarterback since Bart Starr himself in his MVP season of 1966 (105.0) and the shortened season of 1968 (104.3). Rodgers is in great form again here in 2010, with 19 TD, 9 INT, 7.8 YPA and a 95.7 passer rating. More importantly, the Packers are 7-3 and tied for first in the NFC North.

And both are in the midst of what could go down as great careers. This is where it really gets interesting folks.

After last nightגs win over the Broncos, Rivers now boasts the highest passer rating in NFL history, 97.27. And with 4 TDs and 1 pick, he just edged past Tom Brady Monday night for the best "official" TD-to-INT ratio in the history of football ג a critical number that indicates great production while minimizing mistakes. Rivers throws 2.39 TDs for every INT (129-54). Tom Brady throws 2.37 TDs for every INT (244-103)

After Sundayגs win over the Vikings, Rodgers now boasts the second highest "unofficial" passer rating in NFL history, at 96.87. (Rodgers is still 30 attempts shy of the min. 1,500 attempts needed to qualify for גofficialג NFL records.) Perhaps more impressively, Rodgers is easily No. 1 in history in what we consider the critical TD-to-INT ratio, with 2.60 TDs for every INT (78-30). What an awesome number.

To put those TD-INT ratios into perspective, here are the numbers of Rodgers, Rivers and some other notable quarterbacks, Hall of Famers or CHFF favorites:

Aaron Rodgers: 2.60 to 1
Philip Rivers: 2.39 to 1
Tom Brady: 2.37 to 1
Steve Young: 2.17 to 1
Peyton Manning: 2.05 to 1
Joe Montana: 1.96 to 1
Drew Brees: 1.81 to 1
Dan Marino: 1.67 to 1
BrettFavre: 1.52 to 1
Otto Graham: 1.29 to 1
Ken Anderson: 1.23 to 1
Johnny Unitas: 1.15 to 1
Bart Starr: 1.10 to 1
Dan Fouts: 1.05 to 1
Sid Luckman: 1.04 to 1
Terry Bradshaw: 1.01 to 1
Sammy Baugh: 0.92 to 1
Joe Namath: 0.79 to 1

Young, by the way, remains No. 2 on the גofficialג career passer rating list (pending 30 more attempts by Rodgers), at 96.81.

Now, listen, the Cold, Hard Football Facts know better than anybody that numbers in this day and age are much easier to come by for quarterbacks than they have been in past years. So we are not saying that Rivers and Rodgers are better than Brady or Manning, Marino or Montana, Unitas or Starr, Luckman or Baugh.

What we are saying is that both Rivers and Rodgers are putting up numbers in critical areas that nobody else has done before, historic numbers that could someday have either remembered as one of the all time greats.

But fairly or not ג and we argue fairly ג the great quarterbacks are always remembered by team accomplishments. That means big performances in January and showers of confetti in February.

And on both these counts, Rivers and Rodgers have a lot to prove. But for out statistical money, both look capable of taking the steps to that next level this year. Then the "best QB in the game today" argument gets really crowded.

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:43 pm

So jacked to see what the Pack can do in Matt Ryans house.

Nl5H · Post by **Nl5H** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:24 pm

an-also wrote:So jacked to see what the Pack can do in Matt Ryans house.

i know... i don't know if the atl corners can handle the aerial attack. i think matthews keeps turner at bay and they eek it out somehow... it's going to be a shoot out though.

blastmaster · Post by **blastmaster** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:27 pm

Matt Ryan is what, 18-1 at home, right?

Gonna be tough, but the Pack are playing out of their minds right now. Packers win 27-17.

A Kid · Post by **A Kid** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:35 pm

THU, NOV 25
New England at Detroit 12:30 PM
New Orleans at Dallas 4:15 PM
Cincinnati at NY Jets 8:20 PM

SUN, NOV 28
Green Bay at Atlanta 1:00
Pittsburgh at Buffalo 1:00 PM
Carolina at Cleveland 1:00 PM
Jacksonville at NY Giants 1:00 PM
Minnesota at Washington 1:00 PM
Tennessee at Houston 1:00 PM
Kansas City at Seattle 4:05 PM
Miami at Oakland 4:05 PM
St. Louis at Denver 4:15 PM

Philadelphia at Chicago 4:15 PM
Tampa Bay at Baltimore 4:15 PM
San Diego at Indianapolis 8:20 PM

MON, NOV 29
San Francisco at Arizona

not interested in most of these games really. GB/ATL should be good.if tampa beats baltimore

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:37 pm

Let's go Lions...Best throwbacks in the game.

naturalborn103 · Post by **naturalborn103** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:41 pm

Now that was a drop.. Tate is 2010 bethel johnson, got speed but no hands and can't run a single route.

naturalborn103 · Post by **naturalborn103** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:49 pm

Bge is the anti maroney

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:01 pm

Ramen wrote:Let's go Lions...Best throwbacks in the game.

That team plays their heart out every game.

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:45 pm

Jesus, Alphonso Smith suuuuucks

Sumthin_Funky · Post by **Sumthin_Funky** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:53 pm

I'm kind of hoping Pats win. I don't think TWOOOO NFC North division teams will beat Pats this season so if Lions win then I can count my Pack out.

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:59 pm

elohim wrote: Jesus, Alphonso Smith suuuuucks

how do you get burned 3 times on the same play.

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:42 pm

Well, that got ugly quick.

Had to turn that shit off. I was starting to think about how I'd do just about anything to punch Brady in the face.

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:59 pm

System Quarterbacks FTW

naturalborn103 · Post by **naturalborn103** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:10 pm

an-also wrote:System Quarterbacks FTW

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:05 pm

Damn, I remember going into the year, I thought Newman/Jenkins was a top 5 tandem.

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:25 pm

Gay ass halftime show. Fuck these country bumpkins.

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:46 pm

This might be a game if Dallas can get a few more stops.. Big if, though.

Lonely NFL thread is lonely.

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:13 pm

elohim wrote:Gay ass halftime show. Fuck these country bumpkins.

first I thought it was the goo goo dolls, but it was just country dudes with similar haircuts.

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:38 pm

wow the nfc sucks

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:49 pm

roy williams = same ol bum

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:19 pm

there is only one team i would consider putting a lot of money against combined with putting money ON the jets

and that's the bungles

Ticket # Accepted Type Risk To Win Short Description
33828616-1 11/25/2010 4:23 PM

Parlay $100.00 $234.94

Football - 105 New Orleans Saints -220 for Game
Football - 107 Cincinnati Bengals/New York Jets over 43 -110 for Game
Football - 108 New York Jets -485 for Game

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:28 pm

Go ahead and talk that shit now, slouch. If Cro doesn't get that, Revis does.

Millen + Theismann = jamming pencils in my ears til they bleed

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:17 pm

Brad Smith = Bengal Killer

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:21 pm

holy fuck i hate nick folk

but love brad smith as much as i hate nick

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:47 pm

lol I prop bet the over for longest touch downs on all 3 games...thanks Branch, Austin, and Smith

eternalreflection · Post by **eternalreflection** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:50 pm

not challenging the punt call should be a firable offense

Jets run so good

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:59 pm

eternalreflection wrote: not challenging the punt call should be a firable offense

For real. I guess Marvin was 0-2 last week on challenges so he was afraid to challenge, but that was a terrible call.

elohim · Post by **elohim** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:59 pm

elohim wrote:Brad Smith = Bengal Killer

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