Who had the more disappointing career?

jazzmatazz23 · Post by **jazzmatazz23** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:06 am

Elton brand or Vince carter?

binary · Post by **binary** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:50 am

Well Brand was a #1 overall pick, so out of college probably him...But I'm gonna say Vince because after his 3rd year it seemed he had limitless potential and him vs. Kobe would be a rivalry for the future. I also thought Brand was slightly undersized, and the injuries really fucked him over; he had a damn near MVP year with the Clips...whereas with Vince I attribute his failures to being a lazy, heartless bastard with a low basketball IQ who played soft and was content to shoot 20 ft fadeaways all game long.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:31 am

Brien Taylor.

But for the sake of the thread maybe Brand. He never peaked where as we all knew how great Vince once was. Vince and McGrady share that same blood.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:34 am

Philaflava wrote:Brien Taylor.

But for the sake of the thread maybe Brand. He never peaked where as we all knew how great Vince once was. Vince and McGrady share that same blood.

Yeah, this. His first three seasons were absolutely insane. Brand has had a good career, but who knows how good he could have been.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:44 am

Vince Carter.

Elton Brand has the excuse of two bad injuries late in his career.

Vince's only excuse is that he's a pussy.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:15 am

Gregg Popabitch wrote:Vince Carter.

Elton Brand has the excuse of two bad injuries late in his career.

Vince's only excuse is that he's a pussy.

Vince didn't have a bum knee that plagued him for a good portion of his career?

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:38 am

Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:Vince Carter.

Elton Brand has the excuse of two bad injuries late in his career.

Vince's only excuse is that he's a pussy.

Vince didn't have a bum knee that plagued him for a good portion of his career?

How fitting that a bum has to suffer from a bum knee.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:58 am

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:Vince Carter.

Elton Brand has the excuse of two bad injuries late in his career.

Vince's only excuse is that he's a pussy.

Vince didn't have a bum knee that plagued him for a good portion of his career?
How fitting that a bum has to suffer from a bum knee.

Yeah but Vince actually lead his team in the playoffs. His ceiling was so high it makes him look like a bigger disappointment, but he's taken his team farther than Elton.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:37 pm

Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:Vince Carter.

Elton Brand has the excuse of two bad injuries late in his career.

Vince's only excuse is that he's a pussy.

Vince didn't have a bum knee that plagued him for a good portion of his career?
How fitting that a bum has to suffer from a bum knee.
Yeah but Vince actually lead his team in the playoffs. His ceiling was so high it makes him look like a bigger disappointment, but he's taken his team farther than Elton.

have you really forgotten the year that elton brand took LAC to the 2nd round?

and that is exactly why vince carter is a bigger disappointment. Dude's ceiling was so high.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:18 pm

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:Vince Carter.

Elton Brand has the excuse of two bad injuries late in his career.

Vince's only excuse is that he's a pussy.

Vince didn't have a bum knee that plagued him for a good portion of his career?
How fitting that a bum has to suffer from a bum knee.
Yeah but Vince actually lead his team in the playoffs. His ceiling was so high it makes him look like a bigger disappointment, but he's taken his team farther than Elton.
have you really forgotten the year that elton brand took LAC to the 2nd round?

and that is exactly why vince carter is a bigger disappointment. Dude's ceiling was so high.

One playoff series for a number 1 pick?

That's disappointment.

Vince actually made Toronto a relevant NBA city for a while. He had a better impact in the league.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:29 pm

Two playoff appearances for a number 5 pick isn't that good either if you're going to hitch your argument to the playoff appearance wagon.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:27 pm

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Two playoff appearances for a number 5 pick isn't that good either if you're going to hitch your argument to the playoff appearance wagon.

2 playoff appearances? Try 6.

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:46 pm

Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:

Vince didn't have a bum knee that plagued him for a good portion of his career?
How fitting that a bum has to suffer from a bum knee.
Yeah but Vince actually lead his team in the playoffs. His ceiling was so high it makes him look like a bigger disappointment, but he's taken his team farther than Elton.
have you really forgotten the year that elton brand took LAC to the 2nd round?

and that is exactly why vince carter is a bigger disappointment. Dude's ceiling was so high.
One playoff series for a number 1 pick?

That's disappointment.

Vince actually made Toronto a relevant NBA city for a while. He had a better impact in the league.

Actually 2 playoff series.

and I cannot totally blame Brand for only making the playoffs twice. He played for the Bulls when they were led by Rebel Krause and then got traded to the Clips. The fact that he took them on a playoff run at all is a miracle all by itself.

binary · Post by **binary** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:56 am

Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:
Gregg Popabitch wrote:Vince Carter.

Elton Brand has the excuse of two bad injuries late in his career.

Vince's only excuse is that he's a pussy.

Vince didn't have a bum knee that plagued him for a good portion of his career?
How fitting that a bum has to suffer from a bum knee.
Yeah but Vince actually lead his team in the playoffs. His ceiling was so high it makes him look like a bigger disappointment, but he's taken his team farther than Elton.
have you really forgotten the year that elton brand took LAC to the 2nd round?

and that is exactly why vince carter is a bigger disappointment. Dude's ceiling was so high.

why would you argue with this kid? dude is like 14.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:51 pm

Escobar305 wrote:
Kid That's Lifeless wrote:Two playoff appearances for a number 5 pick isn't that good either if you're going to hitch your argument to the playoff appearance wagon.

2 playoff appearances? Try 6.

The playoff teams he was on with the Nets and the Magic were loaded with talent. It's not like he had to carry the team.

siLLy KiD · Post by **siLLy KiD** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:47 pm

LeBron

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:53 pm

siLLy KiD wrote:LeBron

Are you in love with the guy or something? This isn't first time you mentioned him in a thread that has nothing to do with him. Stop being a queer.

jazzmatazz23 · Post by **jazzmatazz23** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:11 pm

I am going to say Brand, even though it is close

an-also · Post by **an-also** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:53 pm

Ask yourselves a question. Who's a bigger waste of talent? The answer lies there.

Positive A · Post by **Positive A** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:56 pm

an-also wrote:Ask yourselves a question. Who's a bigger waste of talent? The answer lies there.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:17 pm

an-also wrote:Ask yourselves a question. Who's a bigger waste of talent? The answer lies there.

I wouldn't really call Vince a waste of talent. He accomplished more than Brand. Injuries really just derailed his career.

binary · Post by **binary** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:53 am

Escobar305 wrote:
an-also wrote:Ask yourselves a question. Who's a bigger waste of talent? The answer lies there.
I wouldn't really call Vince a waste of talent. He accomplished more than Brand. Injuries really just derailed his career.

...not as much as his basketball iq and softness.

Nl5H · Post by **Nl5H** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:05 pm

vince has been on like 4 times though, right?

maybe 5?

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:40 pm

May change my vote if Brand can help get the Sixers past the first round.

Snuggles the DESTROYER · Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:33 am

Anyone who voted Elton Brand is crazy and/or has never had the misfortune of Vince Carter playing for their favorite team.

Although, I did watch him do a dribble/dance up on Channing Frye with a deadpan thousand yard stare look around the whole three point arc while "Tell Me When to Go" played during a shoot around. Legit ha-ha.

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:42 am

Escobar305 wrote:Injuries are the primary reason why Vince's career was disappointing. Had Mcgrady stayed with the Raptors, I'm pretty sure an injury free Vince would have brought a chip to Toronto.

Um, no.

Escobar305 · Post by **Escobar305** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:48 am

Philaflava wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:Injuries are the primary reason why Vince's career was disappointing. Had Mcgrady stayed with the Raptors, I'm pretty sure an injury free Vince would have brought a chip to Toronto.
Um, no.

Please believe it.

Positive A · Post by **Positive A** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:51 am

Escobar305 wrote:
Philaflava wrote:
Escobar305 wrote:Injuries are the primary reason why Vince's career was disappointing. Had Mcgrady stayed with the Raptors, I'm pretty sure an injury free Vince would have brought a chip to Toronto.
Um, no.
Please believe it.

Reason · Post by **Reason** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:58 am