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I'm so glad I didn't see this news before I went to bed otherwise I never would have slept.
This is the greatest assembled Philly pitching staff of all-time. Dare I say possibly the greatest 1-2-3-4- in the league and best assembled staff we'll see in our lifetime.
This is just insane. I suppose RAJ prefers to have dominate pitching and worry about his OF problems later. This makes the Phillies heavy favorites for the WS again, but still think we need to dump at least 3 players to make this deal breathe easy.
This is the greatest assembled Philly pitching staff of all-time. Dare I say possibly the greatest 1-2-3-4- in the league and best assembled staff we'll see in our lifetime.
This is just insane. I suppose RAJ prefers to have dominate pitching and worry about his OF problems later. This makes the Phillies heavy favorites for the WS again, but still think we need to dump at least 3 players to make this deal breathe easy.
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how would this cockblock the yankees? why would the yankees want blanton?
Gloss, you better hope that the Yankees don't win the World Series this year. Pray to Yah'weh. Pray to God. Pray to whatever deity you deem proper (In this case, would it be Ruben Amaro Jr?). Just pray. Because not only am I ressurecting all these old thread but I will make 2-3 more to counteract the overdose Cliff Lee thread as well. and it will be YOUR fault.
I was perfectly level headed about this before Gloss decided he could style on me in teh Sports Bar, on my Facebook, and then a personal fuck you phone call from the PF CEO as well.
Gloss, you better hope that the Yankees don't win the World Series this year. Pray to Yah'weh. Pray to God. Pray to whatever deity you deem proper (In this case, would it be Ruben Amaro Jr?). Just pray. Because not only am I ressurecting all these old thread but I will make 2-3 more to counteract the overdose Cliff Lee thread as well. and it will be YOUR fault.
I was perfectly level headed about this before Gloss decided he could style on me in teh Sports Bar, on my Facebook, and then a personal fuck you phone call from the PF CEO as well.
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i didn't realize i texted you. I IM'ed you and I guess that goes straight to your texts.Philaflava wrote:I don't condone texting while driving and you initiated that.
Also, I wanted to check in to make sure you hadn't Madoff'd yourself this morning.
And like I said, I was completely cool with this until you tried to permeate my life through every way possible. I wouldn't be surprised to see a package sent from you with a Cliff Lee jersey in it. I think i'd burn it on the spot. You are escalating my anger. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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But if not, this is almost ridiculous. The 2011 Phillies would begin the season with what might be the greatest starting rotation in the long history of major-league baseball. Whenever you use a word like "greatest," you run the risk of hyperbole. But not this time.
Cliff Lee, Cy Young winner.
Roy Halladay, two-time Cy Young winner.
Roy Oswalt, MVP of the 2005 National League Championship Series.
Cole Hamels, MVP of the 2008 NLCS and World Series.
They have 13 All-Star Game appearances among them. Two lefties and two righties. Balance, power, finesse, guts. Proven postseason excellence. That is a remarkable combination.
Cliff Lee, Cy Young winner.
Roy Halladay, two-time Cy Young winner.
Roy Oswalt, MVP of the 2005 National League Championship Series.
Cole Hamels, MVP of the 2008 NLCS and World Series.
They have 13 All-Star Game appearances among them. Two lefties and two righties. Balance, power, finesse, guts. Proven postseason excellence. That is a remarkable combination.
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-Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels, Roy OswaltPhilaflava wrote:But if not, this is almost ridiculous. The 2011 Phillies would begin the season with what might be the greatest starting rotation in the long history of major-league baseball. Whenever you use a word like "greatest," you run the risk of hyperbole. But not this time.
Cliff Lee, Cy Young winner.
Roy Halladay, two-time Cy Young winner.
Roy Oswalt, MVP of the 2005 National League Championship Series.
Cole Hamels, MVP of the 2008 NLCS and World Series.
They have 13 All-Star Game appearances among them. Two lefties and two righties. Balance, power, finesse, guts. Proven postseason excellence. That is a remarkable combination.
-Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Millwood
-Koufax, Drysdale, Sutton, Osteen
-Palmer, McNally, Dobson, Cueller (only rotation with 4 20 game winners)
-Cone, Gooden, Darling, Fernandez
These are maybe the only viable contenders.
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RE: Braves vs. Phillies staff
The Braves have 3 HOF on that roster. No doubt about it.
The Phillies as of now just have 1, with two potential HOF candidates depending on the next 3-4 years. The Phillies still have to have success with this core to compare in that regard.
That said, this is the best 1-2-3-4 weגve seen. Millwood or Avery were never #1גs. To many they werenגt even #2גs. The Phillies arguably have 4 #1 pitchers this season. People donגt realize just how awesome Cole Hamels did last year. His numbers and performances were overshadowed by Roy. Like King Felix, Cole suffered from lack of run support but he was every bit as good as most CY Young candidates last year.
This is what separates the Phillies to the Braves. They have legit #1גs and all of them are pretty much in their prime. If Cliff Lee has 4 quality seasons, maybe a CY Young or WS win, he will be a lock for the HOF IMO.
The Braves have 3 HOF on that roster. No doubt about it.
The Phillies as of now just have 1, with two potential HOF candidates depending on the next 3-4 years. The Phillies still have to have success with this core to compare in that regard.
That said, this is the best 1-2-3-4 weגve seen. Millwood or Avery were never #1גs. To many they werenגt even #2גs. The Phillies arguably have 4 #1 pitchers this season. People donגt realize just how awesome Cole Hamels did last year. His numbers and performances were overshadowed by Roy. Like King Felix, Cole suffered from lack of run support but he was every bit as good as most CY Young candidates last year.
This is what separates the Phillies to the Braves. They have legit #1גs and all of them are pretty much in their prime. If Cliff Lee has 4 quality seasons, maybe a CY Young or WS win, he will be a lock for the HOF IMO.
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I said it mostly to rile you guys up, but it is still fairly close. Giants beat most of those guys recently in some pretty important games, just saying tho..Tommy Bunz wrote:Not to be obnoxious, but no they don't and its not really even that close either.vinylfiend wrote:SF Giants still have the best rotation in baseball.
Still in shock that Lee is going to be in red pinstripes this year.
If Pettitte comes back I'm not too upset about the Yankees rotation, although Lee would have been a tremendous help obviously. As much as I despise Burnett he can turn it on at a moment's notice so we'll see if he bounces back. I expect Hughes to continue to improve this year after a rough 2nd half last season (remember, he's on;y 24) and CC will be CC. They need another starter somehow though because I don't think Nova is going to cut it.
As far as Phillies having the best rotation ever, let's wait for the season to start guys. Not saying they won't be fucking fantastic, but what if Lee reverts to his old self? What if Halladay gets injured? What if 2009 Cole Hamels decides to show up?
That's a lot of what ifs, but things don't always go as planned in sports. Again, not saying they won't be great because I expect them to breeze through the NL this year.
As far as Phillies having the best rotation ever, let's wait for the season to start guys. Not saying they won't be fucking fantastic, but what if Lee reverts to his old self? What if Halladay gets injured? What if 2009 Cole Hamels decides to show up?
That's a lot of what ifs, but things don't always go as planned in sports. Again, not saying they won't be great because I expect them to breeze through the NL this year.