The Official MMA Thread

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:31 am

Prophecy wrote:So really a fight with GSP or has to be next right? Who else can challenge Anderson at this point?

Dana said if GSP beats Sheilds it's GSP vs Silva.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:31 am

Prophecy wrote:So really a fight with GSP or has to be next right? Who else can challenge Anderson at this point?

If/when GSP beats Shields, superfight has to happen. Both have cleaned their divisions out. Anderson could move up to 205, but he's still not young and Machida is still relevant in the division.

AXEWOUNDFISTER · Post by **AXEWOUNDFISTER** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:33 am

wow sucks for vitor dude is still one of my all time favs

good lookin out with the links yall

ADR · Post by **ADR** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:28 am

Watching this in HD, Silva is staring down at Belfort's feet right before he kicks him in the face.

He played him beautifully;

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:32 am

I'm glad Silva won. I hope Vitor has a good career from here on out. He is a good guy. The rest of the card kind of sucked.

I hope Shogun beats Bowfinger within an inch of his life. Outside of Chael and Rashad I've never dislike a fighter as much as him.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:08 am

binary · Post by **binary** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:16 am

Jon Jones is so fuckin' dope, gotdamn.

manwhore · Post by **manwhore** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:08 am

screw gsp vs silva, i wanna see silva vs bones.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:41 pm

manwhore wrote:screw gsp vs silva, i wanna see silva vs bones.

GSP vs. Silva decides who the best P4P fighter is... how can you say screw that?

kato · Post by **kato** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:01 pm

vermillion wrote:
Prophecy wrote:So really a fight with GSP or has to be next right? Who else can challenge Anderson at this point?
Dana said if GSP beats Sheilds it's GSP vs Silva.

Okami is never gonna get a shot at the title...poor bastard

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:08 pm

kato wrote:
vermillion wrote:
Prophecy wrote:So really a fight with GSP or has to be next right? Who else can challenge Anderson at this point?
Dana said if GSP beats Sheilds it's GSP vs Silva.
Okami is never gonna get a shot at the title...poor bastard

He's like the middleweight Jon Fitch.

binary · Post by **binary** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:03 am

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:
manwhore wrote:screw gsp vs silva, i wanna see silva vs bones.
GSP vs. Silva decides who the best P4P fighter is... how can you say screw that?

I think Jones vs. Silva would be more exciting. GSP is going to try to do what he usually does.

Kid That's Lifeless · Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:54 am

binary wrote:
Kid That's Lifeless wrote:
manwhore wrote:screw gsp vs silva, i wanna see silva vs bones.
GSP vs. Silva decides who the best P4P fighter is... how can you say screw that?
I think Jones vs. Silva would be more exciting. GSP is going to try to do what he usually does.

Use his top notch MMA wrestling to takedown an opponent and continuously advance position to punch an opponent and look for subs? You mean the same exact gameplan that Jones would try to use against Silva?

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:23 am

Rashad Evans said that if Jones wins he'd move down to MW or up to HW, i think the nigga would do good at MW, he'd have good fights against

Rashad vs. Chael Sonnen
Rashad vs. Okami
Rashad vs. Anderson Silva

they can set him up to be the next MW contender after Brian Stann, I still don't think GSP is going to move up to fight Anderson, he's always said he wanted to pack on muscle properly and make it a full time switch, i think dana's bs'ing.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:37 am

Tweak Da Leak wrote:Rashad Evans said that if Jones wins he'd move down to MW or up to HW, i think the nigga would do good at MW, he'd have good fights against

Rashad vs. Chael Sonnen
Rashad vs. Okami
Rashad vs. Anderson Silva

they can set him up to be the next MW contender after Brian Stann, I still don't think GSP is going to move up to fight Anderson, he's always said he wanted to pack on muscle properly and make it a full time switch, i think dana's bs'ing.

Stann isn't even close to being a contender and I don't see Rashad cutting to 185 being that good of an idea since I'm pretty sure he walks around at about 235-240.

SuperFeen · Post by **SuperFeen** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:33 am

when Rashad was on the hw tuf I think he was barely bigger than 220 and he was a fat ass, he'd have more success if he dropped down, he's not exactly lean and shredded at light heavy

manwhore · Post by **manwhore** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:35 am

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:
manwhore wrote:screw gsp vs silva, i wanna see silva vs bones.
GSP vs. Silva decides who the best P4P fighter is... how can you say screw that?

i was being facetious. of course i'd still love to see gsp fight silva, but imo the size difference between the two is just enough to give silva too much of an advantage.

as if having sensai seagal teaching him new unknown moves isn't unfair enough.

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vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:18 pm

Kid That's Lifeless wrote:
Tweak Da Leak wrote:Rashad Evans said that if Jones wins he'd move down to MW or up to HW, i think the nigga would do good at MW, he'd have good fights against

Rashad vs. Chael Sonnen
Rashad vs. Okami
Rashad vs. Anderson Silva

they can set him up to be the next MW contender after Brian Stann, I still don't think GSP is going to move up to fight Anderson, he's always said he wanted to pack on muscle properly and make it a full time switch, i think dana's bs'ing.
Stann isn't even close to being a contender and I don't see Rashad cutting to 185 being that good of an idea since I'm pretty sure he walks around at about 235-240.

Brian Stann isn't top 10 or near a title shot, but he could be in the picture in a few fights. He's undefeated at MW and beat Leben after he submitted Akiyama and finished Simpson. Not that Leben is an amazing win, but he seemed to be much improved and was on a pretty impressive 3 fight winning streak, especially when you consider beating Simpson and Akiyama within 2 weeks of each other. Not to mention he's the only person, along with Silva, that finished Leben like that. He's fighting Wanderlei next at UFC 130, so if he gets passed him, he will certainly be in the picture and could be in a big contender fight after that.

The card was pretty good, but I think the Jones vs Shogun announcement and Silva's KO overshadow everything. Jones vs Shogun is such an intriguing fight. It's only 6 weeks away and who knows how well Jones will perform with this short notice. Also, who knows how Shogun will adjust to the change of opponents and if his injury is fully healed. Maybe we'll get another performance like the one against Griffin or something much better. Looking at the Griffin fight, the grappling and weight advantage really tired out Shogun as well as the reach advantage on the feet. Shogun didn't grapple in any of his fights since he's been "back" so who knows if the cardio will be all that improved from the Griffin fight, especially with the lay off and injury. I see the fight taking place mostly on the ground. On the feet, I see Shogun trying to use some punches but not having the most success because he doesn't have the best technique and does have problem with reach at times. Jones doesn't use his reach that well, but it will provide a few problems. Fuck this post is gone too long...

I'm picking Shogun over Jones. Jones is a little green and on the ground he makes some mistakes. Look at the Vera fight. If it were Shogun on the bottom, Jones would have definitely been arm barred, or at least a close attempt. On the feet, Jones doesn't use his reach all that well and we haven't seen him deal with the kicks that Shogun will bring. Jones isn't a double leg guy so Shogun's kicks shouldn't be threatened by too many catch and trips or double legs. Shogun via sub.

vermillion · Post by **vermillion** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:26 pm

At the Segal interview. He's delusional. Even though I went crazy for the Silva kick, I couldn't help but think of this right after the fight was over..

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Edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJhMYbrFcU

the dead poet · Post by **the dead poet** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:14 pm

^segal taught him that shit too yo

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:09 am

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:06 am

binary · Post by **binary** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:33 pm

lol Seagal is full of shit.

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:46 pm

Rampage vs. Rashad II at 130.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/9/198 ... d-evans-in

Gregg Popabitch · Post by **Gregg Popabitch** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:36 pm

binary wrote:lol Seagal is full of shit.

i didn't see the interview yet but there have been videos of segal and silva training on youtube 3 months ago so peep it for yourself.

i'm trying to find a d/l link of the event.

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:14 pm

Spotted Matt Hughes in Honolulu, probably in town training with BJ.

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:54 am

UFC 129 in Toronto; sold out, 52,000 in attendance.

Hope the fighters get a big raise for that event, along with the bonuses.

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:10 pm

The day of Fedor fights isn't good for my stomach. :(

Kid That's Lifeless · Post by **Kid That's Lifeless** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:15 pm

bbatson1 wrote:The day of Fedor fights isn't good for my stomach. :(

I almost want Fedor to lose because M-1 has already been bitching about drug testing and I'm fairly confident that they will use their bullshit "renegotiating" tactics to stall an Overeem/Fedor fight. That said, Fedor TKO round 1.

bbatson1 · Post by **bbatson1** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:17 pm

^Drug testing is good in my opinion. Everyone should be doing it anyways. They should get it going reguardless of his opinion on Reem because they'll need to do it for Barnett anyways.

edit. .Silva has gotten in trouble before as well.