Soul Music Thread.

[The Afronaut]

None of the OG post is relevant. Just use thread to post and discuss soul music. -Afronaut


What's the 's take on how "Soul" music is distinguished from other genres?

Ive taken part in more than a few conversations about what actually constitutes "Soul" music over years.

For me, since in a significant way most of the popular genres that came behind it, were spawned from the traditions of Gospel and Blues, it is hard to distinguish when "Soul" starts and stops. I think both Gospel and Blues are infused with the elements that would later become Soul, R&B, Funk, Hip-Hop/Soul and what have you, so where (if at all) do you draw the line?

Thoughts?

[Rabbi Jihadovich]

Why don't you make some uploads instead.

[drizzle]

it is hard to distinguish when "Soul" starts and stops.

not really, you seem to be drastically overthinking this

genres do overlap, and things do get blurry in places, but if an otis redding song makes you ponder this kind of shit instead of just enjoying yourself... you're doing it wrong

[The Afronaut]

it is hard to distinguish when "Soul" starts and stops.

not really, you seem to be drastically overthinking this

Not surprising. Im an overthinker in general and get asked the question a lot. Just wondering what other think about it.

genres do overlap, and things do get blurry in places, but if an otis redding song makes you ponder this kind of shit instead of just enjoying yourself... you're doing it wrong

Thats just it, why would you cite Otis over say Jerry Butler? Why is Otis Redding so much more identified with "Soul"?

Why don't you make some uploads instead.

I was just trying to start a conversation. Upload only/no discussion is one of the reasons Rubin suffers from lack of traffic in my opinion...

[drizzle]

Thats just it, why would you cite Otis over say Jerry Butler? Why is Otis Redding so much more identified with "Soul"?

Again, wild overthinking. Otis is simply the first example that came to mind, I could've named dozens of others. Jerry Butler is not as well known to me, so his name didn't come up first.

I suppose you could argue he came to mind because his music (in my mind at least) represents the genre crystallized in its pinnacle, the optimal form. But he's not the only artist who this characteristic applies to.

[RacquetballGangsta]

for me Soul starts with Sam Cooke and ends roughly at Marvin Gaye's death.

[EichTurner]

^^ that's a good one.

[drizzle]

btw you guys realize that this tread is akin to asking to define real hiphop right? with all the shitty implications that could entail in tow

[The Afronaut]

Okay, maybe I started off too far down the rabbit hole.

Lemme try this instead: Which Soul Music artists do you enjoy and why?

[ackbar]

btw you guys realize that this tread is akin to asking to define real hiphop right? with all the shitty implications that could entail in tow

Soul Vs. R&B

[Willie B]

neo soul post badu and j.scott era is the most soul-less music ever created. not even coffee shop chick and white dude worthy.

[siLLy KiD]

Okay, maybe I started off too far down the rabbit hole.

Lemme try this instead: Which Soul Music artists do you enjoy and why?

If I had to name my fav off the top of my head it would be one of these two:



but lean more toward this one:



so much cot damn mutha fuckin SOUL in this song. plus the association doesn't hurt

[drizzle]

neo soul post badu and j.scott era is the most soul-less music ever created. not even coffee shop chick and white dude worthy.

true

it's like they completely lost something intangible

and a lot of the 'retro soul' stuff isnt' much better. only a few manage to actually get it right.

[siLLy KiD]

neo soul post badu and j.scott era is the most soul-less music ever created. not even coffee shop chick and white dude worthy.

true

it's like they completely lost something intangible

and a lot of the 'retro soul' stuff isnt' much better. only a few manage to actually get it right.

I like teh Mayer. This is the homies band, "Soul Scratch" - we're puttin out their album. I'm partial to them but probably homie biased too. Aside from the lead singer having no business at all wearing skinny jeans, I think they're actually pretty good.



funny story too - the lead singer actually plays John Belushi as a Blues Brother at Universal Studios lol.

[The Afronaut]

neo soul post badu and j.scott era is the most soul-less music ever created. not even coffee shop chick and white dude worthy.

Who are some examples of this?

[Tommy Bunz]

Not sure where else to put this. Trying to find out who sings this. Found it untagged on my computer and its great.
Google only brings up a million results for a different song

http://www.divshare.com/download/23674963-43d

[Gyangsta 4 Life]

Mary J. Blige is the reigning queen of Hip-Hop Soul. Hope that answers the question. Peace.

[Huldrich Bullsh!t]

Not sure where else to put this. Trying to find out who sings this. Found it untagged on my computer and its great.
Google only brings up a million results for a different song

http://www.divshare.com/download/23674963-43d

sounds a little bit like Wendy Rene she has the same intonation but on this track the voice is sometimes a little bit weaker

[The Afronaut]

Dont know who it is, but that song is great Tommy. I'll try to track it down.

[drizzle]

tommy I think you got that song from me, I know I have it on the old ipod. i'll find it later today

[Tommy Bunz]

^very possible, a lot of this kindof stuff I know I got from this site.
thanks for all the help dudes.

[drizzle]

found the song and.... it doesn't have an artist tag on my ipod. i'll try to find the actual mp3 on one of my computres but that's a stretch

[Tommy Bunz]

Thanks though. I tried googling pretty much every line of the song to no avail.

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[Roy Johnson]

I've been diving deep into late 70s/early 80s soul recently. I have a long ways to go, but this is probably my favorite at the moment:

Atlantic Starr - Let's Get Closer

http://www.divshare.com/download/23942418-459

CF Mix

http://www.divshare.com/download/23942419-368

Not good enough to be included on their Greatest Hits, apparently.

[Roy Johnson]

Rose Royce - I Wanna Get Next To You (1976)

http://www.divshare.com/download/23948053-2a3

CF Mix

http://www.divshare.com/download/23947793-678

[Huldrich Bullsh!t]

I've been diving deep into late 70s/early 80s soul recently. I have a long ways to go, but this is probably my favorite at the moment:

Atlantic Starr - Let's Get Closer

http://www.divshare.com/download/23942418-459

CF Mix

http://www.divshare.com/download/23942419-368

Not good enough to be included on their Greatest Hits, apparently.

difficult genre for me because most of it was available only on albums 7inches went out of fashion and there are so many albums with a lot of terrible stale drum computer programming and kitschy arrangements but there are also a lot of amazing songs. for me they just get lost in the shuffle. i never liked to buy an album with atrocious cover art and a lot of bad songs for one or two good songs.

so if oyu have your own mixes of this it's highly appreciated

[Cash Rulz]

neo soul post badu and j.scott era is the most soul-less music ever created. not even coffee shop chick and white dude worthy.

I absolutely love neo-soul. Algebra, Dwele, Jill, Conya Doss, Raheem Devaughn, all those guys are pretty good. However, when they are bad, see: Jaguar Wright, they are bad.

[Roy Johnson]

difficult genre for me because most of it was available only on albums 7inches went out of fashion and there are so many albums with a lot of terrible stale drum computer programming and kitschy arrangements but there are also a lot of amazing songs. for me they just get lost in the shuffle. i never liked to buy an album with atrocious cover art and a lot of bad songs for one or two good songs.

so if oyu have your own mixes of this it's highly appreciated

I hear you.

And I might try to compile something in the future, but for now, I'll just stick to posting individual tracks.

[Rabbi Jihadovich]

difficult genre for me because most of it was available only on albums 7inches went out of fashion and there are so many albums with a lot of terrible stale drum computer programming and kitschy arrangements but there are also a lot of amazing songs. for me they just get lost in the shuffle. i never liked to buy an album with atrocious cover art and a lot of bad songs for one or two good songs.

so if oyu have your own mixes of this it's highly appreciated

I hear you.

And I might try to compile something in the future, but for now, I'll just stick to posting individual tracks.

Oh man, i would kill for some dope soul music mix/mixes! Roy, if you do this, big thanks in advance.