Nevermind Vs. Ten.

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:10 am

Nirvana - Nevermind

or

Pearl Jam - Ten

So Ive been discussing this with some friends of mind over the past week and wondered what the

thinks.

Which album do you feel has aged better?

That is, is one a more enjoyable listen in 2011?

deepfriedjellol · Post by **deepfriedjellol** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:51 am

ten.
im on the toilet right now so i cannot go into details, but ten is my answer.

will be back to defend myself against faggots

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:58 am

deepfriedjellol wrote:ten.
im on the toilet right now so i cannot go into details, but ten is my answer.

will be back to defend myself against faggots

x2

it's not necessarily the better album, might not be the better album at all, but it sticks in your head for far longer

i forgot which particular write up he does it in, but klosterman sums up never mind really well by describing it as more 'important' than actually enjoyable in the long term

AWAE · Post by **AWAE** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:05 pm

pearl jam sucks

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:53 pm

nevermind. I would have said ten up to a year ago, not i find it unlistenable and nevermind gets the nod.

JaH BLaZe · Post by **JaH BLaZe** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:07 pm

they called it ten bcause there are 5 in the band and they all have 2 hands, so 10?

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:07 pm

Ten for me.

Love both albums but Ten just seems to have aged better for me personally.

Basically, Im more compelled to pick Ten back up as time passes.

Really love Vedder's singing throughout and feel the songs work together well as an album.

360 · Post by **360** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:13 pm

When I was a kid, I would have said Nevermind. Now that I am an adult with a respectable knowledge of music... Ten all day. Ten is an excellent LP and will be forever. Nevermind is something one realizes is over rated and uninformed as they learn more.

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:15 pm

JaH BLaZe wrote:they called it ten bcause there are 5 in the band and they all have 2 hands, so 10?

Read yesterday that its actually a reference to Mookie Blaylock, who the band was originally named after.

wheels · Post by **wheels** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:15 pm

A buddy of mine put on Ten in the car when we were on our way to wisconsin a few months back. At first I thought WXRT was in the middle of a pearl jam rock block or something, and I was enjoying the shit out of it. Then I realized he'd put the album on and I proceeded to rock out through the rest. CSB

If it had been 3 songs off Nevermind in a row I probably would have asked him to change the channel. I think I appreciate Nirvana more than I actually like to listen to them, and with Pearl Jam it's the opposite. If that makes sense.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:28 pm

wheels wrote:I think I appreciate Nirvana more than I actually like to listen to them, and with Pearl Jam it's the opposite.

bullseye, pretty much exactly what i was alluding to with the important vs enjoyable thing in my first post

malpractice · Post by **malpractice** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:05 pm

i only really like the first two pearl jam albums, and maybe 2 tracks off of vitalogy, but pearl jam was HUGE for me growing up. lots of nostalgia, and ten is a pretty fantastic album still, i think. i like nirvana a lot, but im going with ten.

besides, "state of love and trust" (though it's not on the album, it's from the same time period) is one of my favorite songs of all time.

malpractice · Post by **malpractice** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:06 pm

The Afronaut wrote:
JaH BLaZe wrote:they called it ten bcause there are 5 in the band and they all have 2 hands, so 10?
Read yesterday that its actually a reference to Mookie Blaylock, who the band was originally named after.

this is correct.

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:24 pm

Can anyone shed any light on the truth or falsehood of this statement?

Regarding the critical reception of Ten... Wikipedia wrote:Nirvana's Kurt Cobain angrily attacked Pearl Jam, claiming the band were commercial sellouts, and argued Ten was not a true alternative album because it had so many prominent guitar leads.

Id never heard that before reading the wiki page on it.

mud · Post by **mud** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:27 pm

Sailing The Seas Of Cheese

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:46 pm

mud wrote:Sailing The Seas Of Cheese

Man if you woulda posted Pork Soda it would've been the ultimate post/username combo.

Tommy Bunz · Post by **Tommy Bunz** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:54 pm

Anyways for me it Nevermind.

Like I said in the Nirvana/GNR thread, at least Kurt was smart enough to kill himself while he was on top. Ten is a very good album but ruined for me by their quick decent into dad/arena rock territory and the fratboy fanbase.

Nevermind isn't my favorite Nirvana album but I'd still take it over anything by PJ.

malpractice · Post by **malpractice** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:54 pm

primus sucks

mud · Post by **mud** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:08 pm

malpractice wrote:primus sucks

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:54 pm

Dids wrote:Nevermind.

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:36 pm

Tommy Bunz wrote:Nevermind isn't my favorite Nirvana album but I'd still take it over anything by PJ.

though lithium (in an awesomely shitty .midi form) was my very first ringtone
TROR

unclebengi · Post by **unclebengi** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:25 pm

Can't listen to Pearl Jam anymore. I listen to Nirvana unplugged quite a bit and Nevermind once in a blue moon.

The Aluminum Falcon · Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:30 pm

Nevermind. Vedder's voice is just awful.

LilLeftBrain · Post by **LilLeftBrain** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:37 pm

don't know how, in 2011, someone could listen to evenflow and not immediately burst into tears of laughter

Y@k Bollocks · Post by **Y@k Bollocks** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:00 am

Scraping the barrel

Career Over Like Mike(NJJ) · Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:19 am

LilLeftBrain wrote:don't know how, in 2011, someone could listen to evenflow and not immediately burst into tears of laughter

Pretty much, and Jeremy is even worse. Pearl Jam are probably the most despicable band of that era; earnest warbling MOR faggots with a bassist with a penchant for stupid hats.

malpractice · Post by **malpractice** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:06 am

today is the anniversary of kurt's death.

The Aluminum Falcon · Post by **The Aluminum Falcon** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:09 pm

Layne Staley's death as well.

The Afronaut · Post by **The Afronaut** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:32 pm

For those who've sited Vedder's voice as making Ten unlistenable, I would ask, do you enjoy Cobain's vocal performance on Nevermind?

If so, what about it in particular makes it enjoyable for you?

Sucka Ducka · Post by **Sucka Ducka** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:30 pm

Never gave a shit about pearl Jam, Vedder was unacceptable to me.. Obviously Nirvana would be my pick.

And yeah, I like Cobains singing infinitely more than Vedder's. Vedder spawned all kinds of shitty college rock. I guess Pearl Jam is just way softer to me, and at that time I was into punk and metal and harder rock bands... At least Nirvana spawned louder and more agressive bands than themselves to some degree (as well as their share of awfulness as well).