is Das Efx's "Hold it down" a classic album?

Galvatron78 · Post by **Galvatron78** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:50 pm

I say yes, it was one of those "fuck the industry" albums. Hard ass beats courtesy of Solid Scheme, Premier, and Pete Rock and could someone please tell me what infected Skoob on that album? On every track the nigga ssounded like he was out blood and hungry as fuck, they came with the stripped down diggedy style and made a back to back classic IMO.

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:59 pm

Agreed, Hold It Down is their second best album to me, Dead Serious being the best.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:06 pm

man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.

skater4041 · Post by **skater4041** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:52 pm

don't forget easy mo bee, he had some awesome beats on that album too

definitely a classic and my favorite das efx album

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:20 pm

dont know if its classic in terms of say illmatic but its my favorite das album and one of the few albums from the mid 90's that i still go back to and listen from front to back.

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:22 pm

Jaz wrote:Agreed, Hold It Down is their second best album to me, Dead Serious being the best.

Agreed.

The ILLatino · Post by **The ILLatino** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:58 am

classic in the sense that it is a great album from that time period that is still enjoyable, but not classic in the sense that it made my head want to explode, a la ILLMATIC.

I think I'll probably be listening to this today.

pestilence · Post by **pestilence** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:40 am

Nooo.
Album was good.
Not even their best and their best wasn't a 'classic'.
I will say it has some classic songs... one being the pete rock remix of real hip hop... that beat is redic.

Thun · Post by **Thun** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:34 pm

Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.

Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....

Quotashun · Post by **Quotashun** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:52 pm

Definitely a classic to me. I still bump this regularly.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:02 pm

Thun wrote:
Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.
Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....

i been hearing a lot of shit about classic this and classic that lately. i feel like people are throwing that word around a bit much nowadays. not every album is "illmatic" but not every decent old album is classic either. people put way too much weight on nostalgia. it's as if no one made half assed shit in the early and mid 90's.
the only reason i say "Dead serious" is questionable is cause of how it has aged over the years. i loved that album and and it's got serious joints all over it. i can't say i ever go back to it. it represents a time to me more then anything. with that said, if someone was like "that's a classic" , i wouldn't argue. "hold it down" wasn't even classic when it dropped. it's ok. i remember buying it then and thinking that very thing.
oh and i'd never give anything i've worked on the "classic" moniker. that's insane.

admiral · Post by **admiral** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:12 pm

Too much filler to be a classic

But the Microphone Master remix with Mobb Deep is out of this world

The ILLatino · Post by **The ILLatino** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:26 pm

HOLD IT DOWN is questionable.

DEAD SERIOUS is a rock-solid 5 mic-er IMO.

Verge · Post by **Verge** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:01 pm

The instrumental promo LP of Hold It Down is classic IMO.The album itself.....probably... depends on your definition of "classic",everyone has their own personal favorite shit that they consider "classic",but others may think is trash...

aight.Voted yes.I used to bump this album.I remember being so surprised at how dope it was,after they're second album(which I thought sucked besides a few joints).

Mark 563 · Post by **Mark 563** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:53 pm

Blockhead wrote:
Thun wrote:
Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.
Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....
i been hearing a lot of shit about classic this and classic that lately. i feel like people are throwing that word around a bit much nowadays. not every album is "illmatic" but not every decent old album is classic either. people put way too much weight on nostalgia. it's as if no one made half assed shit in the early and mid 90's.

'Illmatic' surely isn't the only benchmark of a 'Classic' album. If it were, there would only really be a handfull of Hip Hop albums worthy of the title.

To me, 'Dead Serious' is a classic. There is absolutely nothing 'half assed' about that joint. Almost every track was single worthy (and most did drop on 12" - admittedly half were B-sides). I still spin a bunch of those tracks on the reg' when I DJ, and they all still sound fresh.

A classic constitutes something that is of the 'highest quality, class, or rank', and that, I feel, applies here.

'Hold It Down' isn't a much worse, and is an Ipod regular for me, while 'Real Hip Hop' (original Premo version and Pete Rock Remix) is a stock-standards in my play-out bag.

I consider both LPs to be classic, and would even suggest that the much ignored 'Straight Up Sewaside' isn't nearly as bad as it's given credit for.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:05 pm

Mark 563 wrote:
Blockhead wrote:
Thun wrote:
Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.
Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....
i been hearing a lot of shit about classic this and classic that lately. i feel like people are throwing that word around a bit much nowadays. not every album is "illmatic" but not every decent old album is classic either. people put way too much weight on nostalgia. it's as if no one made half assed shit in the early and mid 90's.
'Illmatic' surely isn't the only benchmark of a 'Classic' album. If it were, there would only really be a handfull of Hip Hop albums worthy of the title.

To me, 'Dead Serious' is a classic. There is absolutely nothing 'half assed' about that joint. Almost every track was single worthy (and most did drop on 12" - admittedly half were B-sides). I still spin a bunch of those tracks on the reg' when I DJ, and they all still sound fresh.

A classic constitutes something that is of the 'highest quality, class, or rank', and that, I feel, applies here.

'Hold It Down' isn't a much worse, and is an Ipod regular for me, while 'Real Hip Hop' (original Premo version and Pete Rock Remix) is a stock-standards in my play-out bag.

I consider both LPs to be classic, and would even suggest that the much ignored 'Straight Up Sewaside' isn't nearly as bad as it's given credit for.

i think you misunderstood a point i was making. i didn't mean an album had to be on illmatic's level to be considered a classic. what i meant is people are quick to call something classic when it is simply just decent. as i said, i won't argue the classic status of "dead serious". i wasn't inferring that "Dead serious" is half assed at all. far from it. however, while i don't think "hold it down" is half assed, it's simply not classic material to me.

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:22 pm

Do we have a classic album thread on here?

Deezal · Post by **Deezal** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:32 pm

come on, Das EFX made classic albums now?

The rose colored nostalgia of 90's Hip Hop amazes me, some folks 'classic' scale needs some readjusting.

sun ra · Post by **sun ra** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:22 pm

this classic non classic problem was always funny to me. I wanna see a list with classic albums, from a to z, are there any?

ALASKA · Post by **ALASKA** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:56 pm

i never really liked it. always thought straight up sewercide was better.

Blockhead · Post by **Blockhead** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:17 am

ALASKA wrote:i never really liked it. always thought straight up sewercide was better.

alaska, you know i love you (no homo) but we all know "straight up sewercide" was garbage. it's a fact. i think i read it on wikipedia.

manwhore · Post by **manwhore** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:29 pm

Philaflava wrote:dont know if its classic in terms of say illmatic but its my favorite das album and one of the few albums from the mid 90's that i still go back to and listen from front to back.

co-signed.

in fact i think i like it more now than i did back when it came out.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:35 pm

hold it down is not classic. too much filler. if i remember correctly that album is hella long.

dead serious is not classic either. i love it and all, but theres some corny songs and terrible raps on it. its very nursery rhyme ish. which was fine when i was in grade 9, but these days its a little

i agree with alaska, i like their second album waaay better. and if you go back to it today it still stands up.

DULLAH · Post by **DULLAH** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:00 am

More than a handful of classic beats.
Lyrics....alright.
Co-sign too much filler.
Dead Serious had that much filler.
I'm beats 1st so this is the closest Das Efx to a classic LP.
Some more features would made it close.

STAM · Post by **STAM** » Mon May 31, 2010 2:15 pm

who rhyme in "Ready To Ruck Ruff Rhymes" with Danzy & Books ??

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Mon May 31, 2010 2:50 pm

STAM wrote:who rhyme in "Ready To Ruck Ruff Rhymes" with Danzy & Books ??

do you mean Krazy Drayz STAM?

PMD and C-Dogg.

AlienNationRadio · Post by **AlienNationRadio** » Mon May 31, 2010 4:06 pm

Gotta love the miggity miggitys they spiced up their rhymes with...

dochiphop · Post by **dochiphop** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:21 pm

man that album, by far, is NOT a classic IMO. Like a few before me have said people use that word "classic" too loosely nowadays. The album was good and i am a big Das Efx fan but people don't talk about and revere that album like they do about true classics that all hip hop headz agree about. Good but not a great album.

Bigg Boss Luciano · Post by **Bigg Boss Luciano** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:27 pm

Classic? No. Their Best? Yes.

STAM · Post by **STAM** » Mon May 31, 2010 8:42 pm

Jaz wrote:
STAM wrote:who rhyme in "Ready To Ruck Ruff Rhymes" with Danzy & Books ??
do you mean Krazy Drayz STAM?

PMD and C-Dogg.

yeah i think about Drayzy

but....... PMD got verses at this track ? im pretty sure first & second part rhyme... i check ohhla com and truly.. he rhyme but i cant heard him :ardy: