Demo Battle part 2

[aleph]

Back by semi-popular demand!

Itג€™s been a while since Iג€™ve gone thru my own tapes. These two demos feature cats who gained fame later on. They werenג€™t part of any real competition but I thought Iג€™d pair them up since theyג€™re both from roughly the same period. Also, it's a more interesting way to put these out there without resorting to the Demos/Rarities thread again.

Demo #1
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Big Ill The Mack- ג€œGet Paidג€
http://www.divshare.com/download/12250626-ffb

This is from a Stretch show from 93. Heג€™s in his hardcore phase, sandwiched between his stint in the group W.I.Z.E.Guyz and Ill Al Skratch. Also around the same period where he dissed Kane at his own b-day party.

Demo #2
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Renaissance- Shine The Spotlight
http://www.divshare.com/download/12250590-af4

I recorded this one from WNYU (Mayhem?) in 94. Heads should recognize the second emcee, who got some shine years later as an associate of Little Brother.

Who takes it?

[dochiphop]

i gotta go with Bill Ill The Mack. that joint goes hard all the way around. I like both songs though. Thanks

[Deejay Essemdee]

Nice post man! This is a tough one, but I think I'm gonna go with Renaissance "Shine The Spotlight"

Who is that 2nd emcee who you said was later affiliated with Little Brother?

[HecticEclectic]

Tough choice..I'm a sucker for that Montara sample but I'll have to with Big Ill

[aREAL]

I love these threads!!!

Feeling Renaissance most, it's a great track imo!

big up aleph!!

[Blockhead]

Oh shit! I totally remember that "shine the spotlight" joint. I had it on cassette forever and could never fine it. Good looks on the upload.

[aleph]

Who is that 2nd emcee who you said was later affiliated with Little Brother?

Spectac. Halftime Show gave him some spin here with "Say Mama" and "When I Rock" back in the earlier part of this decade.

[Bigg Boss Luciano]

Maaad props 4 the Big Ill track!

Big Ill takes it although Renaissance joint is dope as well.

This is from a Stretch show from 93. Heג€™s in his hardcore phase, sandwiched between his stint in the group W.I.Z.E.Guyz and Ill Al Skratch. Also around the same period where he dissed Kane at his own b-day party.

Did W.I.Z.E.Guyz released anythin'? And what's the story behind that diss?


Owee owee oweeeee owee owee aaaahhhh!

[RELM]

Who is that 2nd emcee who you said was later affiliated with Little Brother?

Spectac. Halftime Show gave him some spin here with "Say Mama" and "When I Rock" back in the earlier part of this decade.

Renaissance for me. "Say Mama" was a dope track but the version that got played on Halftime Show never came out. I hit Spectac up some time ago and he was kind enough to send me the unreleased "Say Mama" mixes. A good guy. If any one wants em hit me up.

[aleph]

Did W.I.Z.E.Guyz released anythin'? And what's the story behind that diss?

Just a single and LP. Here's the LP, titled "eF yoU eN Kay E" (1989). It's missing an intro and interlude.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZO0ULBQA

Sample:
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W.I.S.E. Guyz- Big Ill (The Mack)

As for the dis, I never heard that there was any particular beef between Kane and Big Ill. I always assumed that Ill was a young turk wanting to make his mark by taking on a legend and at that time Kane was an easy target. (If anyone knows if there was an actual beef, pls educate)

Beginning at around 1990, Kane noticeably started changing his image from an emceeג€™s emcee to a lover man. For those that remember, he started modeling himself after Prince (by wearing purple) and Barry White. Even his so-called battle rhymes became increasingly corny (ex. ג€œI could fart on a record and make it sound goodג€) and his fans knew it. (Iג€™m not even gonna go into Playgirl and Madonna.) One can say it was a dis rhyme waiting to happen and Kane was wearing the ג€œkick meג€ sign.

For those who haven't heard it, here's the entire Kane b-day bash feat. a host of emcees with an obviously hungry Big Ill rhyming on the last two minutes. http://www.mediafire.com/?4mcc87gxbz832pe

"Say Mama" was a dope track but the version that got played on Halftime Show never came out. I hit Spectac up some time ago and he was kind enough to send me the unreleased "Say Mama" mixes. A good guy. If any one wants em hit me up.

Yeah, that'd be good. I always liked Spectac. Do you have this one:
http://www.discogs.com/Spectac-2-9th-Wo ... se/1336019 ?

[Digital Stimulation]

A couple of the cats from W.I.S.E. Guyz were part of Ten Thieves. Not sure which ones though.

Did W.I.Z.E.Guyz released anythin'? And what's the story behind that diss?

Just a single and LP. Here's the LP, titled "eF yoU eN Kay E" (1989). It's missing an intro and interlude.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZO0ULBQA

Sample:
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W.I.S.E. Guyz- Big Ill (The Mack)

As for the dis, I never heard that their was any particular beef between Kane and Big Ill. I always assumed that Ill was an young turk wanting to make his mark by taking on a legend and at that time Kane was an easy target. (If anyone knows if there was an actual beef, pls educate)

Beginning at around 1990, Kane noticeably started changing his image from an emceeג€™s emcee to a lover man. For those that remember, he started modeling himself after Prince (by wearing purple) and Barry White. Even his so-called battle rhymes became increasingly corny (ex. ג€œI could fart on a record and make it sound goodג€) and his fans knew it. (Iג€™m not even gonna go into Playgirl and Madonna.) One can say it was a dis rhyme waiting to happen and Kane was wearing the ג€œkick meג€ sign.

For those who haven't heard it, here's the entire Kane b-day bash feat. a host of emcees with an obviously hungry Big Ill rhyming on the last two minutes. http://www.mediafire.com/?4mcc87gxbz832pe

"Say Mama" was a dope track but the version that got played on Halftime Show never came out. I hit Spectac up some time ago and he was kind enough to send me the unreleased "Say Mama" mixes. A good guy. If any one wants em hit me up.

Yeah, that'd be good. I always liked Spectac. Do you have this one:
http://www.discogs.com/Spectac-2-9th-Wo ... se/1336019 ?

[Bigg Boss Luciano]

Did W.I.Z.E.Guyz released anythin'? And what's the story behind that diss?

Just a single and LP. Here's the LP, titled "eF yoU eN Kay E" (1989). It's missing an intro and interlude.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZO0ULBQA

Sample:
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W.I.S.E. Guyz- Big Ill (The Mack)

Oh, yeah I saw that album but the front cover was lookin' mad corny so I'd never bothered checkin' it out... Lol, I just checked discogs and it says that Big Ill was a member... I would never thought that it is the same Big Ill if you haven't told me... He switched his style 180

[Verge]

Voting option added.
Great post, aleph! I gotta really give both these songs a fair listen and I'll come back to vote. I'm also a sucker for the Montara sample, especially when it's older like this.

[aleph]

[quote="Bigg Boss Luciano"]Oh, yeah I saw that album but the front cover was lookin' mad corny so I'd never bothered checkin' it out... Lol, I just checked discogs and it says that Big Ill was a member... I would never thought that it is the same Big Ill if you haven't told me... He switched his style 180

[Verge]

Upon further deliberations, I'm gonna go with Big Ill the Mack. That hook really pushed it to get my vote when I was undecided.

[CrimeFamily]

i choose the Renaissance track , the other one is pretty meh,...

[aleph]

Wow, I didn't think we'd have a clear winner here but we do. Personally I prefer Big Ill but not by much.