F3 - The Fanatics Tape (1992) & The Stretch Tape (1993)

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F3 - The Fanatics Tape (1992) & The Stretch Tape (1993)

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A recent interview I did with Infinite, a Pittsburgh hip-hop legend.

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[Picture: Infinite, Rockin' Rosh]

Words from Infinite:
I started DJing when I was about 12, me and two other kids. One named Rasheed, thatג€™s Rockinג€™ Rosh, who was making beats and stuff, and then another dude Ed, we called him Icee Ed. We used to do old cabarets at the Colisseum and the American Legion down in East Liberty, and that was our hook, we were so young and playing adult music and we were professional, did weddings and everything.

Since I was 12 Iג€™ve been immersed in music. We got our beat machines from Tuffy Tuf, everything Tuffy hadג€¦ we bought it when he got something new. He had a Dr. Rhythm, when he bought the Alesis we grabbed his Dr. Rhythm. When he moved on to a SP-1200, we grabbed his Alesis. And by the time I was able to afford the SP-1200 they had stopped making them, so I paid an ass-load of money to have one built. They sold for like $2500, I think I had to pay $4500 to get one built, but I had it at that time cause we were out in the streets.

Rockinג€™ [Rosh] got a full engineering ride to Penn State, big campus and everything. We took his DJing equipment up there and I made the mistake of giving him the SP and he flunked out. And from there it was music all the time.

Around that time was when we did our first white label tapes. The thing that held us back, well, me primarily, was that I always had one foot in the streets. And I believe that if youג€™re juggling youג€™re never gonna be the best at one thing, nah'mean? Youג€™re only gonna be so good at this and so good at that. So, I never made the decision like, Iג€™m gonna do this music whole-heartedly. ג€¦ Sometimes they couldnג€™t get me to the studio [even] if they paid me. Other times when I was working a job, and wasnג€™t in the streets, the job interfered.

I can remember the first tape I soldג€¦ It was to a dude thatג€¦ You know, a customerג€¦ Iג€™m standing on the block with this gray bag of tapes. His name was Tom, he just passed away, Rest In Peace. He pulls up, Iג€™m like, Tom I got this music, and these are full songsג€¦ the ג€œItג€™s Ya Birthdayג€ tape. He said, ג€œman, this better not be no bullshitג€¦ here, manג€¦ ,ג€ he was likeג€¦ reluctant to pay for it. So itג€™s the dead winter like, I think it was December of ג€™92, and after about ten minutes he spins back around the block like ג€œWooo!!,ג€ and then peeled off. And thatג€™s when I said, yeah, we might have something.

I feel like we did a lot as far as the city. The entrepreneur thingג€¦ most people were chasing deals. We were one of the first, wellג€¦ Tuffy kinda did it firstג€¦ to come out the trunk with it. But, I believe we were the first to likeג€¦ get the whole city behind us. Because, our first white label came out in ג€™92, at the exact same time that gang banginג€™ hit the city, so it was real territorial. It was hard for cats from Homewood to be on the Hill, or in Garfield. I donג€™t know how we did it but we crossed all those lines. You could go anywhere in the city and hear people banginג€™ ג€œItג€™s Ya Birthday.ג€

I think part of it was that they didnג€™t know who we were, cause we didnג€™t put pictures on the tapes. To this day, even with Multiple Shots, we didnג€™t have our pictures on there, and that was me, because of the street shit... like, why would I be talking about this shit and put my picture out... nah... just never went out, andג€¦ I think I was scared of fame a little bit, and looking back, I shouldג€™ve been more outgoing and more of a self-promoter. Iג€™d have rather our company made money, or we made money just showing up and do the shows, rather than being all in the [publicג€™s eye]ג€¦ that wasnג€™t me.
F3 - The Fanatics Tape '92
01. Fanatics of Unique
02. It's Ya Birthday
03. We Only Wanted 8 (Str8 Outta Homewood)
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04. Riff Raff

DOWNLOAD - http://www.divshare.com/download/15213602-80c

My personal experience... Infinite hooked me up with severals discs worth of his music. Overwhelming to say the least. But with this first tape... I was blown away.

I was playing the role of transportation for Elzhi, of Slum Village fame, when he was in Pittsburgh for the Rhyme Cal competition in December '10. I figured, hell, might as well put him on to some Pittsburgh classics (rightfully assuming that he had an appreciation for the '90s hip-hop sound). I put on "We Only Wanted 8" and saw his manager's head bobbing uncontrollably. He was bugging out about how the beat drops at the end of every 2nd bar. Elzhi was feeling it too. I just smirked, and proceeded to nod my head.

This is part one of an on-going interview with Infinite, of F3/Ruff Chemistry. More words and music coming soon, including the history of the Ruff Chemistry label and Infinite's experience working with Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Mel-Man, and more.

-Rory
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Part 2

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On "Can't Hold It Back" (feat. Tuffy Tuff, Chris Lo, & Smash Money):
(Download below)

It was just likeג€¦ Okay, Tuffג€™s tryna get his foot back in, so Tuff jump on this joint. Chris was up-n-comingג€¦ and hungryג€¦ like ג€œgimme that hard ass beatג€ ג€¦ and Iג€™m like just take it man, goג€¦ so he was like a little brother. Smashג€¦ what he did for me I couldnג€™t even repay him for. He was a perfectionist. Heג€™s been in the studio where people are paying money or every take has to be right. Meג€¦ itג€™s hip-hop, if I miss a word or whatever, I just keep it moving. When he came along he cleaned everything up.

The significance of that songג€¦ It was an attempt to make an anthem. We call them symphonies, like Marley Marlג€™s ג€œThe Symphony.ג€ There was a formulaג€¦ we had to have a song for the ladies, a song for the club, a song for the radio, and a symphony.

On the Spice 1 concert at Station Square:

I was mad at my hood after the Spice 1 concert, because his manager heard so much about us... ג€œIג€™m here to see yג€™all, I wanna see yג€™allג€ ג€¦ That was actually the most we ever got paid to do a show and it was $1,500. I wanna say it was ג€™93 - ג€™94. It was at Station Square at the Ampitheatre. It was packedג€¦ Ron Brown and Ray Childress were the promoters and they did a good job, they got everybody there. The problem wasג€¦ Hill and Hazelwood did not get along.

It was Mel-Man, us, and Kado from Homewood who has since passed away. And what they did was put Kado on, then Mel, then usג€¦ major mistake. I would even let Mel go after usג€¦ He was bigger than us as far as radio play, but we had the streetsג€¦ The problem was that Kado went onג€¦ and the people from the Hill was up by the stage and they donג€™t care what youג€™re saying, theyג€™re trying to intimidate youג€¦ So then Mel went on, and Mel did a hell of a show, itג€™s just that cats were booing cause heג€™s from the Hillג€¦ throwing shit and pushing up to the front so they can do what they do in his face. By maybe the third song all chaos broke loose. All I remember was jumping on stage to protect my equipmentג€¦ Two SP-1200ג€™s and two Technic 1200ג€™s that nobodyג€™s touching. I was so mad at everybody because cats from Hazelwood and Homewood almost couldn't wait to get in the middle of some shit... They didn't know it, but that may have been a major break for us had we been able to go on that night. I'm sure of it, pretty much.

They had a big ass picnic the next day, Spice Oneג€™s the guest of honor, Homewood Park is packedג€¦ I didnג€™t even go. No disrespect but likeג€¦ we had the best show plannedג€¦ I canג€™t even describe it, Rockinג€™ Rosh was gonna be beat juggling... We were gonna kill it, and we never got the chance.

But what came out of it was that Lil Dub, from up C-City.. I guess Spice mustג€™ve heard him and he recorded a song with him. He put him in a national video, and Spice even rocked the ג€˜Homewood Stateג€™ hoodie in the video. The song was hot, too.
Spice 1 - "East Bay Gangsta" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrXZq927WQE


On battling Biz Markie and opening for Notorious B.I.G.:
I was a big Juice Crew fanג€¦ Gangstarr was probably my favorite group. Rakim is probably who got me motivated though.

I got a story thoughג€¦ I got into a battle with Biz. It was after a show at the Syrian Mosque, in the lobby of the Holiday Inn. I was feeling the pressure because Big Daddy Kane was watching. But Iג€™m going in spitting freestyle, and Biz is up and he starts spitting writtens! So Iג€™m like okay, let me spit somethingג€¦ And I spit this storytelling song called ג€œRuff Day.ג€ I stumbled and couldnג€™t remember my fucking words, I guess I got a little nervous and shook. They asked if I had a tape but we didnג€™t have any. So, we flew home and did the tape [laughs]ג€¦ But it was just funny that I was going back-n-forth for maybe an hour with Biz. And it was funny, because some months later on Biz's I Need a Haircut album I remember a lot of the stuff that he was spitting from the battle.

...

We opened for B.I.G. around the time Ready to Die came out. Hill cats were feeling him, they knew every word to everything he performed. I didnג€™t know that this dude was gonna be who he ended up being.

And to be honest with you, Iג€™m gonna tell you a little story. My man was the weed dude. So he goes up to serve Big, and Big says ג€œI gotchu, I gotchuג€ ג€¦ but Big never paid him, so he got him for like 15 bags. And we laugh about that to this day, like ג€œBig got out on you.ג€
F3 - The Stretch Tape (1993)
01. Intro
02. Stretch
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03. The Lady Hustla (feat. Lady Hustla)
04. Ruff Day
05. I Knew I Was the Man
06. Trapped In Homewood (perf. by Kado)
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07. Can't Hold It Back (feat. Tuffy Tuff, Chris Lo, & Smash Money)
08. Outro


http://www.divshare.com/download/15242616-21b

Next up, Infinite speaks on the formation and idea behind Ruff Chemistry Records. And later, Infinite shares his experience working in Cali with Mel-Man, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, and more.

-Rory

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Thanks for the post man.

Riff Raff is crazy dope!

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Thanks aReal. Definitely feel free to post any joints on Youtube, and link them to my blog as you have in the past.

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Big props for it stilltown. Love the tape quality 90's shit

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Yeah, good shit Stilltown. Appreciated, there's joints on these.

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nojiveturkey wrote:dope! reminded me abit of that manic depression group. thanks for sharing!
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