Defend Batman Returns...

battlecatmeowstab212 · Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:55 pm

I'm seeing this jocked pretty hard in the Dark Knight thread, and I want to understand why so many of you have a hoopla boner for it.

...for reasons other than how awesome the Sega-CD game was of course.

citizen · Post by **citizen** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:00 pm

great cast
catwoman=brilliant
teh penguin man=brilliant
bat boat thing-wonderful
christopher walken
classic batman gadgets
red triangle gang
penguin army-vicious
great ending
wonderful score

SYM · Post by **SYM** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:03 pm

^ pretty much says it all. best batman of the original flagship, unquestionably.

snes game was loads of fun.

Apathwhy · Post by **Apathwhy** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:17 pm

worn out the VHS from dozens of viewing as a kid. Haven't seen it in several years though. What's bad about it?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:19 pm

battlecatmeowstab212 wrote:I'm seeing this jocked pretty hard in the Dark Knight thread, and I want to understand why so many of you have a hoopla boner for it.

...for reasons other than how awesome the Sega-CD game was of course.

a more appropriate approach would be for you to defend your dislike, considering you're by far in the minority here

Gregg Popabitch1 · Post by **Gregg Popabitch1** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:23 pm

easily the 2nd best batman movie ever behind the Dark Knight. I don't think the Dark Knight is significantly better but it is better.

The Gotham landscape in the winter time is beautiful to me.
Pfeiffer as Catwoman was awesome.
Devito as the Penguin was great.
Walken played a great vile business man.
i thought the story was great.
Keaton was very good.

there are other things that citizen brought up (he mentioned the score which is always the case with Burton imo).

I mean, what is there not to like?

citizen · Post by **citizen** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:27 pm

burtons gotham was very interesting, kind of dense and chlostrophobic at times, there were times in dark knight where it looked like michael mann was directing with all the sprawling shots of the city, i like both looks, but yeah gotham in winter in returns was nice

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:44 pm

Devito was a great Penguin. I didn't expect his performance to be as good, or for the character to be lent as much credibility as it was. The story is really good, too. There was a lot of good character development in the movie that few other movies--comic book-based or not--accomplish.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:45 pm

I haven't seen DK yet, but to my mind the best depiction of Gotham was in Returns (like citizen mentioned above), which actually took heed of the city name and made it look gothic in the best sense of the word. Not too far behind was the version shown in the animated series, which seemed to take inspiration from old Eisner comics and german expressionism - a lot of the cityscapes had that distinct skewed and heavily shadowed quality about them that had M and Caligary written all over it.

Icesickle · Post by **Icesickle** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:22 pm

This scene. It's insane that one of the hottest scenes of all time is in a comic book movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IquO5Msg ... re=related

Creation of Catwoman scene is awesome too. Walken is God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9YVppQKgnc

blessingindisguise · Post by **blessingindisguise** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:38 pm

I agree with Poppabitch. It was a more darker, brooding, bleak but exciting vision of Gotham directed by Tim Burton.

malpractice · Post by **malpractice** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:32 pm

blessingindisguise wrote:I agree with Poppabitch. It was a more darker, brooding, bleak but exciting vision of Gotham directed by Tim Burton.

nuff said.
that's why im such a fan of burton's batman and chris nolan's new movies because they ARE darker and not mad corny like most of the others.

djjeffresh · Post by **djjeffresh** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:33 pm

good flick.

might be the second best batman movie behind burton's original.

it's a coin flip between batman returns and batman begins for me. (no harvey)

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:39 pm

THE WAY THE CATS LICKED HER BACK TO LIFE WAS SO PHILOSOPHICAL AND DARK.....I LIKE THE WAY BATMAN COULD HARDLY EVEN MOVE IN HIS SUIT.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgHTRNJl ... re=related

I'm just messing with Ice. In reality this movie kicks so much ass it hurts, danny devito biting the nose and then catwoman eating the bird...Pheiffer's performance is downright amazing, her transformation from Selena Kyle to Catwoman is fucking bonkers....She deserves mad props for that transition, since this thread is basically about the dark knight, it could be pointed out that Ledger didn't have to really have that deep of a character....

Tweak Da Leak · Post by **Tweak Da Leak** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:18 pm

The Batmobile is better than the stupid bat tank

-Putting a bomb on the fat guy
-Walken tossing Pfeiffert out the window
-Gotham looked like a real comic book city instead of Chicago-Lite
-Keatons Bruce Wayne was great
-Devito brought life to the Penguin character that nobody else could've pulled off.
-Catwoman was everything catwoman was supposed to be
-No ugly girl love interest for Bruce Wayne
-Burton really knows how to capture visually the comic book experience theatrically.

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:02 pm

Thats me. And thats the duck. Recognize bitches.

None · Post by **None** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:10 pm

Kalel wrote:

Thats me. And thats the duck. Recognize bitches.

Respek.

ANUBIS5 · Post by **ANUBIS5** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:00 pm

Michelle Pfeiffer was the sexiest Catwoman ever.

Here is the bittorrent link for Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robit and Batman Begins.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1547680

ANUBIS5 · Post by **ANUBIS5** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:01 pm

But Lee Merriwether's Catwoman was right up there with her.

Kalistoga · Post by **Kalistoga** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:48 am

Kalel wrote:

Thats me. And thats the duck. Recognize bitches.

you look like Chris Rock in that picture...

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:05 am

I get that a lot.

HopeLess · Post by **HopeLess** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:15 am

Kalel wrote:

Thats me. And thats the duck. Recognize bitches.

it is taking all my power to not make this my sig.

that is amazing.

sneed · Post by **sneed** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:42 am

While not a bad movie, I just don't think it's the best. It's definitely a great film though.

Kalel · Post by **Kalel** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:23 am

HopeLess wrote:
Kalel wrote:

Thats me. And thats the duck. Recognize bitches.
it is taking all my power to not make this my sig.

that is amazing.

If you did that I'd buy you a pizza.

cascarrabias · Post by **cascarrabias** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:24 am

Fantastic movie. I agree with Popabitch. 2nd best Batman behind Dark Knight.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:55 am

Kalel wrote:

Thats me. And thats the duck. Recognize bitches.

awesome

battlecatmeowstab212 · Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:11 pm

drizzle wrote:
Kalel wrote:

Thats me. And thats the duck. Recognize bitches.
awesome

I agree.

To be honest, I don't dislike the film. I loved the DP work and enjoyed everything everyone's mentioned. I've just never heard it praised as much as it was in "The Dark Knight" thread. When I revisited it two years ago, I found it to be a dope movie but found the oversexualization of it all a bit corny. Then again, that's a relatively minor complaint considering all the awesome aspects of it that this thread has helped me put in perspective.

I'm going to rewatch this soon. Thread = success.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:46 pm

The Dark Knight was simple and effective in comparison to what Tim Burton did. Don't get me wrong.....Burton definitely hooked up the movies he did. But, this shit.....showed a side of the whole Batman series alot of people haven't seen. People know The Joker for being funny and the villian but the not out of wack, brilliant psycho for example.

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