Continuous Kungfu/Martial arts movie thread

Cash Rulz · Post by **Cash Rulz** » Thu May 06, 2010 11:25 am

drizzle wrote:the last quarter of true legend was retarded

everything before that was pretty great though

True.

Ip Man 2 was good. Not great tho' because they make Americans and Westerners so fuckin' strong and powerful. Like nigga, 3 days ago you fighting 40 dudes coming at you with machetes and you can't beat the P90X guy with boxing gloves. C'mon son!!!!

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 06, 2010 1:00 pm

you saw it already? had to be a cam rip right?

Crappy Pants · Post by **Crappy Pants** » Thu May 06, 2010 1:46 pm

drizzle wrote:you saw it already? had to be a cam rip right?

nah, there's dvdrip out with mandarin chinese but i'm waiting for the cantonese version.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 06, 2010 5:35 pm

Gallants trailer

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intially I wrote this off since it's obv heavy on comedy and I hate most kung fu comedies, especially slapsticky ones. But the fighting in this trailer is pretty fucking rediculous, and the number of old school dudes involved is impressive. twitch review is really positive too http://twitchfilm.net/reviews/2010/05/g ... review.php

Cash Rulz · Post by **Cash Rulz** » Thu May 06, 2010 6:12 pm

drizzle wrote:you saw it already? had to be a cam rip right?

No, and I also have the english subtitles.

Whether its mandarin or cantonese makes no difference to me being that I can't understand either one, lol.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 06, 2010 6:17 pm

Cash Rulz wrote: Whether its mandarin or cantonese makes no difference to me being that I can't understand either one, lol.

i hear that

i was raised watching kungfu dubbed, first into russian then into english, i'm used to shitty dubbing.

Lid · Post by **Lid** » Sun May 09, 2010 11:24 am

Cash Rulz wrote:
drizzle wrote:the last quarter of true legend was retarded

everything before that was pretty great though
True.

Ip Man 2 was good. Not great tho' because they make Americans and Westerners so fuckin' strong and powerful. Like nigga, 3 days ago you fighting 40 dudes coming at you with machetes and you can't beat the P90X guy with boxing gloves. C'mon son!!!!

just watched flashpoint, true legend and IP2..
i shoulda stopped watchin True Legend after she was put in the box

In Ip2 i was surprised at how they made the boxin dude so ridiculous.

i'm bout to watch storm warriors 2 tonite

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:51 pm

donnie yen can'tstopwon'tstop

official first trailer for legend of the fist: return of chen zen

looks very much indebted to Black Mask and comic books in general. pretty much direct opposite of what he's been doing lately with ip man movies and bodyguards and assassins. parkouring through a live battle field is a pretty great idea

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Cash Rulz · Post by **Cash Rulz** » Mon May 10, 2010 4:33 pm

So that wasn't some sort of Black Mask movie?

Getting ready to peep Shadowless Sword.

Did anyone mention that?

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Mon May 10, 2010 5:00 pm

i'm a big fan of shadowless sword. one of the better sfx driven swordplay movies in recent years, with very little of the overdramatic faggotry that brings down so many other entries into the subgenre

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Tue May 11, 2010 12:16 pm

IP Man 2 hit the net this week I guess. Downloaded it yesterday. Watched the first 15 minutes to check out quality and it looked pretty cool so far. Going to watch it and 14 blades tonight.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Tue May 11, 2010 12:32 pm

i'm guessing if you guys all have it then chinatown will have it too

BUT, it's also the headlining movie of the NY Asian film fest, so i'm kinda tempted to wait a month to see it on the big screen. probably wont hold out that long though

Lid · Post by **Lid** » Tue May 11, 2010 1:23 pm

Random Sample wrote:IP Man 2 hit the net this week I guess. Downloaded it yesterday. Watched the first 15 minutes to check out quality and it looked pretty cool so far. Going to watch it and 14 blades tonight.

few of the ip man2's floating around have the worst subtitles ever. some people dont give a fuck, but i had to dig up the proper subs.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Tue May 11, 2010 1:28 pm

Lid wrote:
Random Sample wrote:IP Man 2 hit the net this week I guess. Downloaded it yesterday. Watched the first 15 minutes to check out quality and it looked pretty cool so far. Going to watch it and 14 blades tonight.
few of the ip man2's floating around have the worst subtitles ever. some people dont give a fuck, but i had to dig up the proper subs.

Yeah the first version of the subtitles I got were terrible, but here is a link to way better ones that I found:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zb1vy2wmjoq

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 13, 2010 4:41 pm

Dee el Hugely · Post by **Dee el Hugely** » Thu May 13, 2010 6:45 pm

anybody heard any word on Ong Bak 3? i've seen a few references to it having seen theatrical release in thailand on the 5th, but haven't seen any reviews or shitty cams yet.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 13, 2010 6:49 pm

i resisted posting this, but what i've read so far was not that positive

keep in mind that reaction to the 2nd was very mixed, lots of people didn't like it. the movie was incomprehensible, but i don't give two shits about anything except the actual fighting in these movies and i liked the fighting a lot.

the third though, apparently there's not that much fighting but a lot of crap about buddhism. so i'm guarded

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 13, 2010 7:02 pm

here is one, some plot spoilers though

http://thaifilmjournal.blogspot.com/201 ... bak-3.html

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Thu May 13, 2010 7:04 pm

no spoilers here, not sounding promising at all:

Maybe itגs the current political climate. Maybe itגs intended in the original script. Unlike its predecessors whose premises rest upon non-stop fighting, blood, and gore, Ong Bak 3 shows us that violence solves nothing, that revenge breeds more hatred, and that peace begins with an act of forgiveness. Some will regard this departure as a refreshing take on a genre so stereotypical, so sanitized of relevant messages. But others will find this movie a big disappointment.

Ong Bak 3 attempts to be a different kind of martial arts movies. It trades fight scenes for dialogues on the Buddhist philosophy of karma and the cycle of life. Its Muay Thai fighting style, invented by Tony Jaa, the movieגs leading man, reflects this subdued, composed tone. As a result, fighting in Ong Bak 3 is less violent, less grandiose than in other Jaaגs features but focuses on showcasing the raw beauty of a human body and its graceful movements. The waterfalls scene, for example, is Jaaגs physical monologue of part ballet, part meditational poses, part Thai traditional palace dances. This is certainly unlike anything that has preceded it.

With far fewer fights and less death-defying stunts, the movie risks alienating its target audience of action movie fans who only look for two hours of pure gladiatorial entertainment, not non-violence evangelism. Filling the screen time with unnecessary slow motions and unimportant subplot deviations and having a weak storyline, plaguing plot holes, and underutilized characters also do not help winning viewers over.

Ong Bak 3 picks up where part 2 has left off. Tien (Tony Jaa), who was orphaned in a mutiny, was captured by his parentsג murderer as he was raiding his palace to avenge their deaths. Rescued by an anonymous hero, he recuperates in a small village where he finds love and enlightenment. Meanwhile, his parents' murderer faces his own mutiny by his top bodyguard (played by another martial arts star Dan Chupong), and the new king intends on eliminating all threats including Tien.

Unfortunately the final showdown is too sedated, too anti-climatic for its setup. But all in all everything nicely leads back to the Buddhist philosophy and the symbolic Buddha statue that comes to be the stolen object in the first Ong Bak installation set a few centuries afterward (perhaps Tien is Ong Bakגs protagonist several reincarnations later). Again, this may or may not be in the minds of the trilogyגs screenwriters originally, but the attempt at being different and relevant is applauded.

Dee el Hugely · Post by **Dee el Hugely** » Thu May 13, 2010 7:36 pm

based on the ong bak 2, i figured that the third would probably be better watched without subtitles - that way you can at least imagine your own plot. but plot is about as important in a tony jaa film as it is in a porn, so i had zero hopes or expectations there. sucks that they're apparently on some "for the seeds" after-school special tip.

as a trilogy goes, shit's haphazard. the original and tom yum goong make more sense together than the second, and apparently, third.

but most importantly, tony jaa needs to up his workrate. everybody else in the business' imdb drops elbows on his.

Versive · Post by **Versive** » Thu May 13, 2010 8:03 pm

drizzle wrote:it's also the headlining movie of the NY Asian film fest, so i'm kinda tempted to wait a month to see it on the big screen

that

ThaJim2 · Post by **ThaJim2** » Wed May 26, 2010 4:17 pm

Undisputed 3 leaked and it more than lived up to the hype. In fact The Expendables is not a shoe in for best movie of the year. The screenplay was a step above even the A listers of direct to video movies. Awesome fight scenes. The only thing disappointing is the two fights we did not get to see because of the story here is hopping these scenes make it into a Undisputed 4. Adkins really was able to pick up what was missing with White but I still hope to see these two work together again.

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed May 26, 2010 4:38 pm

Donnie Yen has been doing a lot of the same roles that Jet Li did in the early to mid 90's. The best Chen Zen story that I have watched is Fist of Legend.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed May 26, 2010 4:42 pm

Yen's version of chen zen looks EXACTLY like jet li's character in the mask

BUT, Yen actually played Chen Zen before in the mid 90s in a tv show remake of Chinese Connection called (puzzlingly) Fist of Fury

Website · Post by **Random Sample** » Wed May 26, 2010 4:47 pm

Yeah I read that on Dannie Yen's wikipedia one day.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed May 26, 2010 4:51 pm

that one is actually worth checking out, alongside the retarded overcranking that ruined a lot of his work from taht period there are some gems. the sequel improved in that area, also worth netflixing

Lid · Post by **Lid** » Fri May 28, 2010 10:14 am

Undisputed 3 is dope as fawk. they managed to incorporate 52's/jailhouse rock, i'm just mad we didnt see it again. but we should see alot of it in pt. 4. the capoeira dude did not annoy me

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:12 am

purely in terms of action itself and how it's shot and edited, undisputed 3 is the best martial arts movie of vaguely american origin ever. the second one was slightly better overall, and so was blood and bone (maybe). but neither one had fights quite as good as this.

what's even more surprising is that in some ways it was better than both true legend and ip man 2 imo. it was def one of the few (if not the first) time on memory that something american was competitively comparable to something from HK.

drizzle · Post by **drizzle** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:39 pm

this looking better and better with every trailer

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Spartan · Post by **Spartan** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:43 pm

Ah!

The Green Hornet diss makes sense now.