True Detective (HBO)

[Sucka Ducka]

http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/true-de ... 201130309/ don't think this has been posted

[hustler]

^wow! even lori was in on it! further evidence of just how powerful and deep rooted the death cult is.

[Y@k Bollocks]

Ending left me feeling the exact same way as Kill List.

[samdoom]

Ending left me feeling the exact same way as Kill List.

couldn't disagree more. while i definitely see the similarities between kill list and true detective in terms of the themes and cult stuff, the ending of kill list had my jaw dropped to the floor in disbelief/confusion. this ending was much more tidy and safe whereas kill list's ending was bonkers, imo.

also- regarding the deleted scene with Lori, I think inclusion of that scene in an episode would have definitely made the creator's explanation about the characters' journey being the main focus of the show sound less hollow. if they had focused more on Rust's issues with children in the aftermath of having lost his daughter years back, the ending of the show would have hit home a little harder.

[Gregg Popabitch]

[Y@k Bollocks]

Ending left me feeling the exact same way as Kill List.

couldn't disagree more. while i definitely see the similarities between kill list and true detective in terms of the themes and cult stuff, the ending of kill list had my jaw dropped to the floor in disbelief/confusion. this ending was much more tidy and safe whereas kill list's ending was bonkers, imo.

Yeah, Kill List was more bonkers, but I meant that in both cases, any sort of 'big reveal' was going to be a let down. The build up in both True Detective and Kill List was so good, so well crafted, there was no way they were going to do it justice. I'd rather they never found Childress TBH.

[drizzle]

The one thing I think Kill List def did better in the resolution was show a vague shape of the big picture without revealing too much detail. You still walk away not knowing exactly how it all adds up, but at least you can perceive how the details scattered through the build up might combine to something bigger. And that's what was missing for me from TD ending, a peek at what kind of continuity might exist between the seeded clues. We know Errol is the bastard son of Tuttles, we know the Tuttles themselves are somehow in on it, there is some old religion involved, but these pieces are all very disparate and there isn't really enough given to imagine a plausible way of how in 2012 the state's governor might be connected to an insane backwoods redneck via a ritualistic familial kid touching tradition.

[samdoom]

^^
agreed. while i dont think we necessarily needed a full out explanation on who all was involved or a part of the cult and rituals, it was unclear if Errol was involved directly with the cult, if his behavior derived as a direct/indirect byproduct of the cult, etc. I'm still not sure I necessarily understand what the dynamic between him and the chained up father was exactly. that being said i havent had time to re-watch the finale since it aired.

[drizzle]

The only guess I got on the father bit was that he is maybe keeping him there as revenge for scarring him (and possibly worse abuse since it doesn't seem like Tuttles are generally good with kids). I thought it was interesting that the barn where he was chained up has od amounts of Yellow King iconography on it. It could be significant, but could easily just be pure set decoration too. There is really nothing indicating if Errol is part of the tradition or some horribly mutated byproduct of it or is acting out against it or if the 'cult' even still exists in any way beyond covering up Errols shit or whatever... It doesn't really matter at this point but it would've been nice if they had put a little more effort into linking all this up.

[ackbar]

i honestly think the tuttle's only involvement is protecting molestation, child pornography, incest, murder, shame, etc. to further their family/church/etc. it's a more realistic explanation at least. "chain of command"

[Philaflava]

wouldn't errol be a son of childress not tuttles?

i get ted was the son of sam, but still a tuttle is not his pops.

[drizzle]

theoretically son of childress, grandson of tuttle.... that's exactly the kind of shit that we could've used 1-2 more clues on. not a full fbi surveillance style family tree with little tags that say 'chief rapist', 'snuff film videotape key grip', 'pr cover up guy', 'yellow king', etc, but give me at least a little something for my imagination to run wild with

[samdoom]

'snuff film videotape key grip'

[Gregg Popabitch]

wouldn't errol be a son of childress not tuttles?

i get ted was the son of sam, but still a tuttle is not his pops.

The Childresses were a part of the Tuttle family tree.

[Dap]

[Philaflava]

wouldn't errol be a son of childress not tuttles?

i get ted was the son of sam, but still a tuttle is not his pops.

The Childresses were a part of the Tuttle family tree.

maybe you missed the part where i said ted was the son of sam.

[jamrage]

Finally got caught up. I thought this was a really fantastic show, and I'm glad I didn't jump into this thread with all the ridiculous theories while I was watching.

Someone should count the number of times Woody Harrelson frowns in this series. Holy shit, make it a drinking game. Totally agree with those that say that his character had more of an arc, but McConaughey really killed it with his performance as the weirdo misanthrope. Both were brilliant.

The last episode was patchy, but the creators were really in a tough spot having to tie everything together. I felt that they showed far too much of Childress in the episode. They should have waited until about halfway through the episode before they really got deep into what was going on in the house. Honestly, I didn't have as much of a sinister vibe from him as I did with Reggie Ledoux. The green ears thing was silly as fuck, especially given how the series had been to that point.

Agree that the last ten minutes or so was a bit much, and the space vortex that Rust saw was a bit and felt out of place. Still, this was really a great show, and I'm very interested in the next season with the new story and actors.

[Philaflava]

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/mwthqf/st ... lat-circle

[Combo7]

That dude is a real sniper? It was the guy from the bar that Rust works at.

Dude had the glazed, burned-out look of a shellshocked Nam vet and put the bullets exactly where he wanted them to go. Legit sniper.

[Julius Seizure]

That dude is a real sniper? It was the guy from the bar that Rust works at.

Dude had the glazed, burned-out look of a shellshocked Nam vet and put the bullets exactly where he wanted them to go. Legit sniper.

the exact back story i imagined.

[christian from austin]

[Stoned Starks]

I think that Aligtor Alley there in Louisiana is filled with a buncha freaks. Some real sickos. I wish those losers woulda seceded, y'know?

[Tommy Bunz]

June 10th. They are pushing this thing out the door way faster than their other shows



Extras:

Special features for both the Blu-ray & DVD releases include:
•Making True Detective - A behind-the-scenes look at production on the hit series, featuring interviews with cast and crew and including never-before-seen footage from Episode 4.
•Up Close with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson - Exclusive interviews with the stars about filming the series.
•A Conversation with Nic Pizzolatto and T Bone Burnett - An in-depth discussion with the series writer/creator/executive producer and the legendary composer on both the series and the pivotal role music played in the show's development.
•Inside the Episode - Series creator/executive producer/writer Nic Pizzolatto and director Cary Joji Fukunaga discuss character development and offer insights into each episode of the series.
•Two audio commentaries - Featuring series creator/executive producer/writer Nic Pizzolatto, composer T Bone Burnett and Executive Producer Scott Stephens
•Deleted Scenes - Never-before-seen episodic footage from the series

[360]

Just marathoned this. Instantly in my top 5 of all time.

I have no clue how the actors who play the detectives in the next season are going to even approach the magnificence Woody and Matty displayed. That's the real mystery.

[Random Sample]

‘True Detective’ Season 2 Will Have Three Leads, California Setting

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More details have emerged about the cast and setting of “True Detective” season two, which will have three new leads, according to creator Nic Pizzolatto.

TV PILOTS/DEVELOPMENT SCORECARD: Follow the action during upfront season

In a recent interview with public radio program “To the Best of Our Knowledge,” Pizzolatto revealed that in the new season’s current form, “we’re working with three leads. It takes place in California — not Los Angeles, but some of the much lesser known venues of California — and we’re going to try to capture a certain psychosphere ambiance of the place, much like we did in season one.”

He added, “The characters are all new, but I’m deeply in love with each of them. We’ve got the entire series broken out with a couple of scripts, and we’ll probably start casting in earnest in the coming months.”

The show’s anthology format means that season two will be entirely self-contained and distinct from its freshman year, with no plans for season one stars Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson to return — something that differentiates the series from FX’s “American Horror Story,” which recycles actors from past seasons in new roles.

Pizzolatto previously told HitFix that “True Detective” season two would be about “hard women, bad men and the secret occult history of the United States transportation system.”

Last week, rumors circulated that “Zero Dark Thirty” star Jessica Chastain was offered a role in season two, but the actress denied the buzz on the red carpet at Cannes. “It’s an awkward thing because when all that attention happens — it takes away from whoever plays the role,” she said. “I’m a big fan of the series. I’m going to watch the second season just like I watched every episode of the first.”

[drizzle]

kinda of a shame about Chastain, she would've been good I think

[Random Sample]

kinda of a shame about Chastain, she would've been good I think

Maybe there is still a chance. I think that she would be really good in it too.

[alpha]

Pretty sure they'll get too talent, not to worried.

[Req]

Pretty sure they'll get too talent, not to worried.

is good televise? am needing know

[alpha]

Stupid phone. "Good talent"