Slug vs. El-P

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:37 am

Since the last poll was a complete blow-out, here is one that maybe a bit closer.

Both PF posters, though one is slowly creeping to HLB status with his zingers and uncontrollable late-night babble. The other one doesnגt show face much unless itגs a thread about him or his projects.

One shouted us out on Kimmel, the other just appeared on Kimmel last night, but I donגt think we got a shout-out 

Both have done contests on PF, so I guess you could say theyגre supporters. One is notorious for his lady troubles the other for his label troubles.

Both are indie superstars and very good business men. You could argue both have a classic album under their belt (Lucy Ford/Funcrusher Plus).

One would rather be mouth fucked by Nazis, the other would rather mouth fuck Employee (I think).

Okay, now vote!

Murph · Post by **Murph** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:47 am

I have to give to to Slug here.

I never bought into either of their hype for a long time, but when I listened to You Can't Imagine.. and I'll Sleep When You're Dead and thoroughly enjoyed them both I went back and listened to all of their stuff and I enjoy the Slug/Atmosphere stuff more. I really don't like Funcrusher very much, that style of hip-hop just doesn't do it for me. I also don't really enjoy El's first solo, I guess it's too "abstract" for me, or something. On the other hand, I really like all the Atmosphere stuff I've heard.

That's just based off their MC skills though. I mean, El-P makes some crazy beats and has produced some certified classics (Cold Vein) and some great more recent records (Hell's Winter, etc) which are far superior to anything I've heard Slug produce (if he even produces anymore, or ever did a lot?). Plus they are both indie superheroes, starting their own labels and bringing them to huge underground/some mainstream recognition. I think Def Jux generated a little more interest generally now, as Atmosphere is the only truly well recognized group out of RSE (shameful in a way, others deserve it).

It's a tough decision.. as you said, both are great businessmen and indie allstars, really doing their part to shape the underground rap scene... but if you ask me, I'd rather listen to some Atmosphere than an El-P album.

The Wrist · Post by **The Wrist** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:49 am

for me...its el p pretty easily....

yea he's weirder...but his shit is a lot grittier...which i enjoy...

i enjoy atmosphere as well...but el's shit...i dunno....its just so unique yet rugged that its tough to compare to anything else

sun ra · Post by **sun ra** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:52 am

EL-P!!

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:57 am

Easiest poll ever. EL-P hurts my ears.

Voted slug.

hessbz12 · Post by **hessbz12** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:47 am

Not a big fan of El-P. Slug is pretty dope. Went with Slug.

Trademark · Post by **Trademark** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:21 am

well, although they both are labeled "hip hop" they make very different kinds of the same music. I'm voting slug because his music is much more approachable...I could go on and on and compare and contrast but what I'm basing my vote on is if I had a friend over and wanted to share a few beers I'd throw some Slug on...

DLG · Post by **DLG** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:37 am

voted EL-P because his shit knocks harder and he keeps reinventing himself sonically while slug, even though he's dope, plays it safe most of the time and raps over smooth beats about girl troubles and stuff, while El-P spits that grizzly paranoia and every one of his albums sounds like he took 20 years off his life making it.

so yeah, Laserface all the way.

ape9 · Post by **ape9** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:51 am

EL-PRODUCTO!!! Dude makes beats and raps.. come on...

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:53 am

Slug knows an old friend of mine so, he's pretty much good in my book. EL-P sold me on a Fantastic Damage hat.....he's a damn good salesman. So this was a close one.

Moolah · Post by **Moolah** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:06 pm

ardamus wrote:Slug knows an old friend of mine so, he's pretty much good in my book. EL-P sold me on a Fantastic Damage hat.....he's a damn good salesman. So this was a close one.

Willie B · Post by **Willie B** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:14 pm

sex offender mustache with matching producer's sex offender mustache

Brougham33 · Post by **Brougham33** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:54 pm

Hold up....

This is the molester I'm rollin with. Big suprise.

ardamus · Post by **ardamus** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:59 pm

Moolah wrote:
ardamus wrote:Slug knows an old friend of mine so, he's pretty much good in my book. EL-P sold me on a Fantastic Damage hat.....he's a damn good salesman. So this was a close one.

Everyone talked about the music and I think they both have good music. I just recalling other shit from when I met them both. Shit wasn't funny though so, nevermind......

CasOne · Post by **CasOne** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:04 pm

just vote for who now has the better moustache.

Seduce · Post by **Seduce** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:52 pm

DLG wrote:voted EL-P because his shit knocks harder and he keeps reinventing himself sonically while slug, even though he's dope, plays it safe most of the time and raps over smooth beats about girl troubles and stuff, while El-P spits that grizzly paranoia and every one of his albums sounds like he took 20 years off his life making it.

so yeah, Laserface all the way.

El-p's shit does not knock harder than Atmospheres.

Atmosphere uses actual 808s and almost gangster basslines that bang in the trunk.

El-p's shit sounds muddy and doesnt hit in the car at all.

Haitian Jack · Post by **Haitian Jack** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:08 pm

cant believe el aint winning this eazy.

young god · Post by **young god** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:39 pm

EL-P without a doubt.

Willie B · Post by **Willie B** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:47 pm

Brougham33 wrote:Hold up....

This is the molester I'm rollin with. Big suprise.

this changes EVERYTHING

ape9 · Post by **ape9** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:15 pm

Seduce wrote:
El-p's shit does not knock harder than Atmospheres.

Atmosphere uses actual 808s and almost gangster basslines that bang in the trunk.

El-p's shit sounds muddy and doesnt hit in the car at all.

Lies all Lies..... then you anit got 12" rockford fosgates... with a pioneer amp...

arlene · Post by **arlene** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:18 pm

slug
company flow does not make up for the solo crapfest that occured afterwards.

Clyon · Post by **Clyon** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:25 pm

Overall, El-P

Fan Dam. Released with the only song that can still give me the chills after hundreds of plays.

As a poetic lyricist, I'd give it to slug, tells a story like no other.

staytribe. · Post by **staytribe.** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:00 pm

a year ago it would've been slug, but i like el-p's new one a lot.

ObeseJesus · Post by **ObeseJesus** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:02 pm

I really cant decide on this one. Slug's older material is some of my favorite underground hiffop around but currently El is making better music.

Henessee Williams · Post by **Henessee Williams** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:29 pm

LAZER FACE!

Captin Planit · Post by **Captin Planit** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:33 pm

Not even close for me. And I like Slug. But El-P's influence on a lot of indie shit is absolutely undeniable.

Are we supposed to gauge this on rapping alone, or on total musical contributions? 'Cuz if it's the latter, I don't know how Slug is winning this.

Employee · Post by **Employee** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:34 pm

EL-P is light years ahead of Slug on every level imaginable.

reevolution · Post by **reevolution** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:36 pm

Sorry Seannie boi, as I said in the other thread, I will listen to your music when other people have it on, but I've never bought or downloaded anything of yours. I used to be an El-P fanboy though. That is, until all of his beats turned into a sine wave and white noise with drums under 'em.

On second though, maybe I should have went with Snail?

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:24 pm

Employee wrote:EL-P is light years ahead of Slug on every level imaginable.

I'm glad we are in full agreement on this.

Chance · Post by **Chance** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:35 pm

Moolah wrote:Easiest poll ever. EL-P hurts my ears.

Voted slug.

Pretty much.