Kanye West vs. Madlib

Money Gripp · Post by **Money Gripp** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:46 pm

I will say one thing. Regardless of whom you prefer, Madlib's drums DESTROY Kanye's. It's like John Bonham versus the drummer in Michael Bolton's lounge band.

MCBwatdown · Post by **MCBwatdown** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:18 am

Madlib doesn't dig deep at all. Most of Quasimoto was made from UBB records. How the fuck is that deep? Someone caught him in an interview citing a made up track name from a Dusty Fingers release. He was saying it was one of his favorite breaks.

Fuckin' A · Post by **Fuckin' A** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:53 am

Hagfish wrote:Madlib by miles and miles and miles.

HopeLess · Post by **HopeLess** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:55 am

Money Gripp wrote:I will say one thing. Regardless of whom you prefer, Madlib's drums DESTROY Kanye's. It's like John Bonham versus the drummer in Michael Bolton's lounge band.

Hahaha...that comparison made me laugh

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:16 am

Money Gripp wrote:I will say one thing. Regardless of whom you prefer, Madlib's drums DESTROY Kanye's. It's like John Bonham versus the drummer in Michael Bolton's lounge band.

it depends on what kind of drum style u like , i think kanyes drums have way more bounce and play the background nicely. i think his patterns are a lot better too.

Panama · Post by **Panama** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:58 am

Madlib got him on the mic and on beats

YouTube · Post by **Philaflava** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:48 am

Madlib is not that nice on the mic. Kanye isn't exactly a wordsmith either, but he is clearly better.

jess · Post by **jess** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:55 am

Panama wrote:Madlib got him on the mic

That Quasimoto shit he does is one of the most annoying things I've ever heard and ruins ever single song its on
In conclusion, you have horrible taste or you like to make rediculous statements to shock people

Funk Docta Bombay · Post by **Funk Docta Bombay** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:02 pm

KaeoFLUX wrote: But I don't know the first damn thing about Kanye. He makes beats for like Jay-Z right? And other guys with dumb names who can't rap?

KaeoFLUX · Post by **KaeoFLUX** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:21 pm

^^

Its about time!

damn yall are slacking.

viva la backpacks

Panama · Post by **Panama** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:24 pm

jess wrote:
Panama wrote:Madlib got him on the mic
In conclusion, you have horrible taste or you like to make rediculous statements to shock people

Wrong and wrong again

"You like to make ridiculous statements to shock people"

Saying that Quasimoto's the unseen is better than College dropout

That

Panama · Post by **Panama** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:25 pm

HipHoppin wrote:Kanye is a better MC and a better producer. Yeah his style might be growing old and Madlib's shit is really diverse, but Madlib has put out alot of shitty beats. He got like a 1 to 5 ratio of hot beats to bad/mediocre ones, while Kanye's shit is like 1 to 2.

The style of producing and sampling shouldn't factor in to the discussion because the final products should be compared. I'm kinda anti-Kanye right now because alot of his newer shit he's been doing is weak but he's still better than Madlib.

Both have plenty of bangers and both of em are dope, but I voted for K West.

Location: Chicago

shopvack · Post by **shopvack** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:13 pm

Panama wrote:
jess wrote:
Panama wrote:Madlib got him on the mic
In conclusion, you have horrible taste or you like to make rediculous statements to shock people

Wrong and wrong again

"You like to make ridiculous statements to shock people"

Saying that Quasimoto's the unseen is better than College dropout

That

liesalllies · Post by **liesalllies** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:31 pm

Panama wrote: Location: Chicago

Location: Cleveland

you lose.

Orale Holmes · Post by **Orale Holmes** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:30 am

Y@k Bollocks wrote:I voted Madlib. To be honest - i'm not familiar with much of Kanye Wests material bar the beats he did for Jay-Z and College Dropout (which i think is OK). Can someone post a discography maybe?

Madlib

As Producer (and/or MC):

Alkaholiks - Mary Jane from "21 and Over" LP 1993 (Loud)
Alkaholiks - WLIX from "Coast II Coast" CD/LP 1995 (Loud)
Lootpack - Psyche Move EP 12" and CD 1995 (CDP Records)
Lootpack - The Anthem EP 12" 1998
Lootpack - Questions 12" single 1999
Lootpack - Whenimondamic 12" single 1999
Alkaholiks - Killin It from "Likwidation" CD/LP 1999 (Loud)
Lootpack - Anthem Remix 7" single (Groove Attack - Promotional)
Lootpack - Soundpieces: Da Antidote CD/LP 1999
Declaime - IllMindMuzik 12" EP 1999 (Goodvibe)
Lootpack - Bone Marrow from Strength Magazine's "Subtext" CD/LP 1999 (London/Full Frequency)
Madlib Invazion - interludes from Strength Magazine's "Subtext" CD/LP 1999 (London/Full Frequency)
Quasimoto - Hittin Hooks 7" single 1999
Quasimoto - Microphone Mathematics 12" single 1999
427 - Business Deals/What Is It 12" single 2000 (ABB Records)
Quasimoto - Come On Feet 12" 2000
Lootpack - Weededed 12" single 2000
Quasimoto - The Unseen CD/LP 2000
Cali Agents - Up Close And Personal from "How The West Was Won" CD/LP 2000 (Ground Control)
Quasimoto - Basic Instinct 12" 2000
Kazi - Down for the Kaz 12" single 2000
Madlib - Madlib Invazion 7" single 2000
Epitome - Earthquake 12" single 2000
Yesterdays New Quintet - Elle's Theme EP 12" EP 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - The Bomb Shelter EP 7" single 2001
Madlib - 6 Variations of In the Rain 12" single 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - Uno Esta EP 12" EP 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - Rocket Love 7" single 2001 (Stones Throw Fan Club 45 #1 - Promotional)
Medaphoar - In Rhymes We Trust 12" single 2001
Yesterdays New Quintet - Angles Without Edges CD/LP 2001
Declaime - Andsoitisaid (8 songs) LP 2001 (Groove Attack)
The Loopdigga - The Beat Conductor - 2/7" LP 2001
LMNO - Headlock 12" single 2001 (Battle Axe)
Yesterdays New Quintet - Heaven Must Be Like This from "Rewind" 12" single and CD/LP 2002 (Ubiquity)
Quasimoto - Astronaut EP 12" 2002 (Antidote Records)
Madlib - LAX To JFK from Peanut Butter Wolf's "Fusion Beats" CD and 12" EP 2002 (Brown Sugar/Cold Fusion, Japan)
Dudley Perkins - Flowers 7" single 2002
Peanut Butter Wolf & Madlib - Rawcore from v/a "Constant Elevation" CD/LP 2002 (Astralwerks)
Lootpack - On Point 7" single 2002
Wildchild - Knicknack 2002 12" single 2002
Medaphoar - Place Your Bet 7" single 2002
Medaphoar - Bang Ya Head 12" single 2002
Joe McDuhprey Experience - Experience EP 12" 2002
Yesterdays New Quintet - Deja Vu (Weldon Irvine remix) from "Rewind 2" CD/LP 2002 (Ubiquity)
Yesterdays New Quintet - The Meaning of Love 7" single 2002
Wildchild - Heartbeat (Remix) 12" single 2003
Ahmad Miller - Ahmad's First 12" EP 2003
Madlib - Theme For Fergus 7" single (Stones Throw Fan Club 45 #4 - Promotional)
Yesterdays New Quintet - Suite for Weldon 12" EP 2003
Wildchild - Secondary Protocol (6 songs) CD/LP 2003
Jaylib - The Red/The Official 12" single 2003
Madlib - Shades of Blue CD/LP 2003 (Blue Note)
Yesterdays New Quintet - Nuclear War (Sun Ra Remix) from v/a "Dedication: The Myth Lives On" CD/LP and 7" single 2003 (Kindred Spirits)
Dudley Perkins - A Lil' Light CD/LP 2003
Dudley Perkins - Money 12" single 2003
Declaime - Life b/w Enjoy Your Stay 12" single 2003 (Hum Drums)
Sound Directions - Skyscrapers 7" single (Stones Throw Fan Club 45 #5 - Promotional)
Jaylib - Champion Sound/Strip Club 12" single 2003
Jaylib - Champion Sound CD/LP
Jaylib - Ice b/w Raw Addict 12" single 2003
Madvillain - Money Folder b/w America's Most Blunted 12" single 2003
Madlib - Slim's Return 12" single 2003 (Blue Note)
DJ Rels - Diggin In Brownswood (uncredited co-producer) 12" single 2003
Diverse - Ain't Right from "One A.M." CD/LP (Chocolate Industries)
Medaphoar - Now U Know 12" single 2003
Dudley Perkins - Washedbrainsyndrome 12" single 2004
Vast Aire - Look Mom No Hands, Could Be You, Life's Ill from "Look Mom No Hands" CD/LP 2004 (Chocolate Industries)
Madvillain - Curls & All Caps 12" single 2004
Madvillain - Madvillainy CD/LP 2004
Madvillain - One Beer 7" single 2004
Yesterdays New Quintet - Stevie CD/LP 2004
DJ Rels - Song For My Lady (co-produced, uncredited) from Broken Soul 12" single 2004
Aceyalone - KO Player from v/a "True Notes Vol. 1" CD 2004 (Okayplayer)
Malik Flavors - Ugly Beauty 12" EP 2004
Jaylib - McNasty Filth/Pillz 12"/CD single 2004
Declaime - Signs from "Preemtive Hype Vol. 2" 12" EP 2004 (Hiphopsite - Promo)
Prince Po - Too Much, The Slickness, Bump Bump from "The Slickness" CD/LP 2004 (Lex)
Diverse - Beyond, Beyond from "Just Biz" 12" single 2004 (Chocolate Industries)
Monk Hughes & The Outer Realm - Tribute To Brother Weldon CD/LP 2004
DJ Rels - Theme For A Broken Soul (co-produced, uncredited) CD/LP 2004

Madlib Remixes:
Peanut Butter Wolf - Definition of Ill 12" single 1999
Madlib Remixes 12" EP 2000 (bootleg)
Foreign Legion - Nowhere to Hide 12" single 2000 (Insiduos)
Beastie Boys - Shake Your Rump from "Beastie Boys Video Anthology" DVD 2000 (Grand Royal)
Zion I - Critical 12" single 2000 (Ground Control)
J-88 - Get It Together, Things You Do from "Best Kept Secret" CD/LP 2001 (Groove Attack)
Scapegoat Wax - Alison 12" single 2001 (Grand Royal)
Jill Scott - A Long Walk (circa 2001) from Madlib on Worldwide CD 2004 (Promo)
Bilal - Soul Sista 12" & CD single 2002 (Interscope)
Zero 7 - Distractions 12" & CD single 2002 (Ultimate Dilemma)
Madlib - Blunted in the Bomb Shelter Mix CD/LP 2002 (Antidote)
Jazzanova - L.O.V.E. and You and I 12" single 2002 (JCR)
Daedelus - Playing Parties (The Stars Remix) from "The Quiet Party" 12" & CD EP 2002 (Plug Research)
Prozack Turner - Bang It 12" single 2003 (Dreamworks)
Madlib - Young Warrior (Bobby Humphrey Remix) from "Blue Note Revisited" CD/LP 2004 (Blue Note)

Im willing to put money on the fact that maybe four out of that whole list rises above mediocre.

Madlib is not good. He's aiight....

RAWTALENT · Post by **RAWTALENT** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:50 am

Y@k Bollocks wrote:Alkaholiks - Mary Jane from "21 and Over" LP 1993 (Loud)

:shock:

Panama · Post by **Panama** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:30 am

liesalllies wrote:
Panama wrote: Location: Chicago
Location: Cleveland

you lose.

lose what ???

I don't give a fuck about Chicago

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:31 am

Remo the Great wrote:
Quotashun wrote:kanye
kanye is much more consistent with his shit. madlib is always hit or miss on every fucking thing. his slapdash style turns me off.

so if he threw you one of his beats you would tell him no thanks????.... :?

imo Kanye West, he is , boring, tired and wayyyyyy overated I don;t see what all the hype is all about?...he is a very below average MC as well...

young nova · Post by **young nova** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:34 pm

so if kanye west threw u a beat ud turn it down :shock:

Al-Iteration · Post by **Al-Iteration** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:43 am

^^^lol.. right..

Kanye is not a far below average emceee.....I'll admit his voice isn't great...or his breath control...but he's very witty (although the same word rhyming shit is KILLING me at this point)...flow is decent

technically and shit... I'd call him an above average emcee, top 50 out now.. maybe top 25... but I dunno cuz Breeze Brewin's coming back and he takes up the first 20 spots :shock:

Hagfish · Post by **Hagfish** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:38 pm

Kanye's tendency to experiment with his cadence to annoying degrees puts him far below Madlib on my listenable rappers list.

HustleCrowe · Post by **HustleCrowe** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:10 pm

I voted for Madlib

I dunno if its just me but is Kanye getting kind of annoying. Hes on everyones song rappin the same way about the same shit. I loved Kanye when he first came out, but now he needs to chill for a while, maybe produce for some peeps without rapping. Plus he seems arrogant as hell now, he said in an interview that HE WAS ON THE SAME LEVEL RHYME WISE AS JAY Z & NAS :shock:

i wa slike THE FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THAT, hes not even remotely close. Hes a dope producer don't get me wrong & i like his music & i even like his rapping but he really needs to chill. Also he acts like hes the only cat rockin LO , fuck that dudes been up on that long before him.

Madlib consistently makes bangin beats & he seems chill as fuck. Madlib's beats on JayLib > a good amount of Kanye's beats.

Madlib isn't a great rapper either, but neither is Kanye, but when Madlib goes into Quasimoto mode its Madlib > Kanye rhyme wise. Madlib is gonna get bigger i think to, he's workin with Busta Rhymes right now.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:32 pm

i don't know about you guys.

i think kanye is a great MC. if you can't pick out that he's way above average, theres something wrong. what exactly is wrong with his rapping?

madlib on the other hand isn't a very good rapper at all. His rhymes are very simple and he often won't even bother to rhyme. The beats carry him.

now if they ever made a KanLib album, that would be the hot shit.

peace
Balzac

Doogs · Post by **Doogs** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:34 pm

Madlib is probably a better all-around producer, but Kanye's mainstream appeal is good because at least most of his songs are listenable, if not really good...and since he gets tons of radio play, that's definitely a good thing.

As rappers though, Kanye>Madlib by a great degree. Madlib annoys me...I think I like the Quasimoto voice more than his normal one...

Jaz · Post by **Jaz** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:40 pm

now if they ever made a KanLib album, that would be the hot shit.

I disagree...and hopefully it will never happen...

Hagfish · Post by **Hagfish** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:42 pm

Balzac wrote: i think kanye is a great MC. if you can't pick out that he's way above average, theres something wrong.

Req · Post by **Req** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:45 pm

Balzac wrote:i think kanye is a great MC. if you can't pick out that he's way above average, theres something wrong.

Balzac · Post by **Balzac** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 1:47 pm

Hagfish wrote:
Balzac wrote: i think kanye is a great MC. if you can't pick out that he's way above average, theres something wrong.

wow..... good point..... i'll rethink my position.

J Dub · Post by **J Dub** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:59 pm

HustleCrowe wrote:I voted for Madlib

I dunno if its just me but is Kanye getting kind of annoying. Hes on everyones song rappin the same way about the same shit. I loved Kanye when he first came out, but now he needs to chill for a while, maybe produce for some peeps without rapping. Plus he seems arrogant as hell now, he said in an interview that HE WAS ON THE SAME LEVEL RHYME WISE AS JAY Z & NAS :shock: i wa slike THE FUCK OUTTA HERE WITH THAT, hes not even remotely close. Hes a dope producer don't get me wrong & i like his music & i even like his rapping but he really needs to chill. Also he acts like hes the only cat rockin LO , fuck that dudes been up on that long before him.

Madlib consistently makes bangin beats & he seems chill as fuck. Madlib's beats on JayLib > a good amount of Kanye's beats.

Madlib isn't a great rapper either, but neither is Kanye, but when Madlib goes into Quasimoto mode its Madlib > Kanye rhyme wise. Madlib is gonna get bigger i think to, he's workin with Busta Rhymes right now.

The fact that you pointed out that your personal opinion of Kanye's personality has anything to do with whether you like or dislike his music negates any statement that you make in this thread.

clark bent · Post by **clark bent** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:58 am

kayne is a better mc than producer

Kanye West vs. Madlib

Kanye vs. Madlib