is Das Efx's "Hold it down" a classic album?
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is Das Efx's "Hold it down" a classic album?
I say yes, it was one of those "fuck the industry" albums. Hard ass beats courtesy of Solid Scheme, Premier, and Pete Rock and could someone please tell me what infected Skoob on that album? On every track the nigga ssounded like he was out blood and hungry as fuck, they came with the stripped down diggedy style and made a back to back classic IMO.
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classic in the sense that it is a great album from that time period that is still enjoyable, but not classic in the sense that it made my head want to explode, a la ILLMATIC.
I think I'll probably be listening to this today.
I think I'll probably be listening to this today.
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Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.
i been hearing a lot of shit about classic this and classic that lately. i feel like people are throwing that word around a bit much nowadays. not every album is "illmatic" but not every decent old album is classic either. people put way too much weight on nostalgia. it's as if no one made half assed shit in the early and mid 90's.Thun wrote:Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.
the only reason i say "Dead serious" is questionable is cause of how it has aged over the years. i loved that album and and it's got serious joints all over it. i can't say i ever go back to it. it represents a time to me more then anything. with that said, if someone was like "that's a classic" , i wouldn't argue. "hold it down" wasn't even classic when it dropped. it's ok. i remember buying it then and thinking that very thing.
oh and i'd never give anything i've worked on the "classic" moniker. that's insane.
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HOLD IT DOWN is questionable.
DEAD SERIOUS is a rock-solid 5 mic-er IMO.
DEAD SERIOUS is a rock-solid 5 mic-er IMO.
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The instrumental promo LP of Hold It Down is classic IMO.The album itself.....probably... depends on your definition of "classic",everyone has their own personal favorite shit that they consider "classic",but others may think is trash... aight.Voted yes.I used to bump this album.I remember being so surprised at how dope it was,after they're second album(which I thought sucked besides a few joints).
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'Illmatic' surely isn't the only benchmark of a 'Classic' album. If it were, there would only really be a handfull of Hip Hop albums worthy of the title.Blockhead wrote:i been hearing a lot of shit about classic this and classic that lately. i feel like people are throwing that word around a bit much nowadays. not every album is "illmatic" but not every decent old album is classic either. people put way too much weight on nostalgia. it's as if no one made half assed shit in the early and mid 90's.Thun wrote:Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.
To me, 'Dead Serious' is a classic. There is absolutely nothing 'half assed' about that joint. Almost every track was single worthy (and most did drop on 12" - admittedly half were B-sides). I still spin a bunch of those tracks on the reg' when I DJ, and they all still sound fresh.
A classic constitutes something that is of the 'highest quality, class, or rank', and that, I feel, applies here.
'Hold It Down' isn't a much worse, and is an Ipod regular for me, while 'Real Hip Hop' (original Premo version and Pete Rock Remix) is a stock-standards in my play-out bag.
I consider both LPs to be classic, and would even suggest that the much ignored 'Straight Up Sewaside' isn't nearly as bad as it's given credit for.
i think you misunderstood a point i was making. i didn't mean an album had to be on illmatic's level to be considered a classic. what i meant is people are quick to call something classic when it is simply just decent. as i said, i won't argue the classic status of "dead serious". i wasn't inferring that "Dead serious" is half assed at all. far from it. however, while i don't think "hold it down" is half assed, it's simply not classic material to me.Mark 563 wrote:'Illmatic' surely isn't the only benchmark of a 'Classic' album. If it were, there would only really be a handfull of Hip Hop albums worthy of the title.Blockhead wrote:i been hearing a lot of shit about classic this and classic that lately. i feel like people are throwing that word around a bit much nowadays. not every album is "illmatic" but not every decent old album is classic either. people put way too much weight on nostalgia. it's as if no one made half assed shit in the early and mid 90's.Thun wrote:Why is "Dead Serious" questionably a classic? It's a front-to-back banger, premiered one of the most original and engaging rap styles of all time, and its singles are some of the genre's most beloved classics. Production and sequencing are top-notch. I mean it's no Bazooka Tooth but c'mon....Blockhead wrote:man, everything is passing as "classic" nowadays..."dead serious" is a questionable classic..."hold it down"? it's ok. far from classic.
To me, 'Dead Serious' is a classic. There is absolutely nothing 'half assed' about that joint. Almost every track was single worthy (and most did drop on 12" - admittedly half were B-sides). I still spin a bunch of those tracks on the reg' when I DJ, and they all still sound fresh.
A classic constitutes something that is of the 'highest quality, class, or rank', and that, I feel, applies here.
'Hold It Down' isn't a much worse, and is an Ipod regular for me, while 'Real Hip Hop' (original Premo version and Pete Rock Remix) is a stock-standards in my play-out bag.
I consider both LPs to be classic, and would even suggest that the much ignored 'Straight Up Sewaside' isn't nearly as bad as it's given credit for.
hold it down is not classic. too much filler. if i remember correctly that album is hella long.
dead serious is not classic either. i love it and all, but theres some corny songs and terrible raps on it. its very nursery rhyme ish. which was fine when i was in grade 9, but these days its a little
i agree with alaska, i like their second album waaay better. and if you go back to it today it still stands up.
dead serious is not classic either. i love it and all, but theres some corny songs and terrible raps on it. its very nursery rhyme ish. which was fine when i was in grade 9, but these days its a little
i agree with alaska, i like their second album waaay better. and if you go back to it today it still stands up.
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man that album, by far, is NOT a classic IMO. Like a few before me have said people use that word "classic" too loosely nowadays. The album was good and i am a big Das Efx fan but people don't talk about and revere that album like they do about true classics that all hip hop headz agree about. Good but not a great album.
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yeah i think about DrayzyJaz wrote:do you mean Krazy Drayz STAM?STAM wrote:who rhyme in "Ready To Ruck Ruff Rhymes" with Danzy & Books ??
PMD and C-Dogg.
but....... PMD got verses at this track ? im pretty sure first & second part rhyme... i check ohhla com and truly.. he rhyme but i cant heard him