Were not talking about who's funniest, it's about who's making the most cake. All that applies is good marketing andmanagement. Dane Cook = not funny. Chris Rock has his stand up written by Wanda Sykes and others so he's just the front man, but his delivery is gold and his reach is almost Oprah status...almost. Larry is a redneck hick so he speaks to 85% of white america: Lowest Common Denominator. Russel Peters is probably the true hustler out the bunch cause he lives WELL off stand up and DVD sales alone...no TV , movies, or sponsors.
"the plot thickens like the Dickens giving whoopins and lickins when you're not looking"
Kelron wrote:Chris Rock has his stand up written by Wanda Sykes and others so he's just the front man
i don't doubt chris rock has had other people write for him (though i've never heard that before).. but to assume he didn't write any of his act for a hbo special is kind of a leap. chris rock is obviously a writer himself
Kelron wrote:Chris Rock has his stand up written by Wanda Sykes and others so he's just the front man
i don't doubt chris rock has had other people write for him (though i've never heard that before).. but to assume he didn't write any of his act for a hbo special is kind of a leap. chris rock is obviously a writer himself
I would say most stand ups have a certain amount of material written for them. Chappelle's writing partner Neil Brennan did more than the TV show. As for Chris Rock, Nick Dipaolo was on Stern in the past and said before one of his HBO specials Rock would fly out a group of comedians to watch his set and essentially "punch up" the material. From the way he tells it Rock already has the majority of the set down, he just gets suggestions on add ons or alternatives to the jokes.
Lance Goodthrust wrote:I would say most stand ups have a certain amount of material written for them. Chappelle's writing partner Neil Brennan did more than the TV show. As for Chris Rock, Nick Dipaolo was on Stern in the past and said before one of his HBO specials Rock would fly out a group of comedians to watch his set and essentially "punch up" the material. From the way he tells it Rock already has the majority of the set down, he just gets suggestions on add ons or alternatives to the jokes.
most good stand ups? hell no. all good stand ups write their own material
punching up or workshopping material is completely different than having someone co-write your material & of course tv shows are a different thing. they employ a writing staff for exactly that purpose
Kelron wrote:Chris Rock has his stand up written by Wanda Sykes and others so he's just the front man
i don't doubt chris rock has had other people write for him (though i've never heard that before).. but to assume he didn't write any of his act for a hbo special is kind of a leap. chris rock is obviously a writer himself
Lance Goodthrust wrote:I would say most stand ups have a certain amount of material written for them. Chappelle's writing partner Neil Brennan did more than the TV show. As for Chris Rock, Nick Dipaolo was on Stern in the past and said before one of his HBO specials Rock would fly out a group of comedians to watch his set and essentially "punch up" the material. From the way he tells it Rock already has the majority of the set down, he just gets suggestions on add ons or alternatives to the jokes.
most good stand ups? hell no. all good stand ups write their own material
punching up or workshopping material is completely different than having someone co-write your material & of course tv shows are a different thing. they employ a writing staff for exactly that purpose
When I wrote HBO specials I was referring to his stand up shows, not the sketch/interview show. From all that I have ever heard, having some material written for you is pretty common. For instance, take Paul Mooney who wrote for Pryor. Here is a piece from the AV Club on him. "A chance meeting with Pryor irrevocably shaped Mooney's career; he began writing for Pryor, in a fruitful partnership that led to classic comedy albums, performance films, and the Pryor-directed autobiographical drama JoJo Dancer, Your Life Is Calling. Doing a google search finds references to him writing on Live on the Sunset Strip, Bicentennial Nigger and Is It Something I Said.