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I'm getting sick of all these pussies coming out against Andre Agassi since he revealed he used crystal meth in '97. Martina said he should be looked at as Roger Clemens and now Safin is saying he should give it all back; including his earnings and trophies?

Since when did crystal meth become a performance enhancer and since when did that shit linger in your system for 10 years? Do we forget how great he was prior and after 1997? The man wrote an autobiography and did what you're suppose to be, reveal facts about yourself people didn't know.

If other tennis players were put under a microscope I'm sure we'd find a lot of dirt on them. This dude is retired and came out about his personal drug use. He didn't take steroids. He didn't gamble on the game. He didn't pay anyone to help him win. He didn't do anything that should make people say stupid shit like Safin and others are saying.

This makes me sick and its one of the reasons I hate 99.9% of all tennis personalities other than Johnny Mac.


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PARIS -- Former No. 1-ranked Marat Safin believes that Andre Agassi should give his tennis titles back after confessing he tested positive for a banned substance during his career and lied about it to the ATP.


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If he is as fair play as he says he is, he has to go to the end. You know, the ATP has a bank account and he can give the money back if he wants.

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-- Marat Safin, former world No. 1

Agassi admitted in his autobiography "Open" that he used crystal meth in 1997 and failed a drug test, a result he says was thrown out after he lied by saying he "unwittingly" took the substance.

Safin, who plans to retire this month, said in an interview with L'Equipe newspaper on Tuesday that Agassi should "give his titles, his money and his Grand Slam titles" back.

"I'm not defending the ATP, but what he said put it in a delicate position," Safin said. "The ATP allowed him to win a lot of tournaments, a lot of money. It kept his secret. Why does he need to be so cruel with it?"

Agassi, who retired in 2006, won 60 titles, including eight Grand Slams, during his career. He recently told The Associated Press that he had to speak about his lies because he couldn't live with it anymore.

"If he is as fair play as he says he is, he has to go to the end," Safin said. "You know, the ATP has a bank account and he can give the money back if he wants."

Safin, who will retire after this week's Paris Masters, won the 2000 U.S. Open and 2005 Australian Open. The 29-year-old Russian said he isn't going to write his autobiography when his career will be over.

"Me, I don't need money," he said. "The question is: Why did he do this? What is done is done. Does he hope to sell more books? It's absolutely stupid."

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MIAMI -- Martina Navratilova drew a parallel Thursday between Andre Agassi and Roger Clemens, saying she's shocked the eight-time Grand Slam champion lied about drug use.

Agassi's upcoming autobiography contains an admission he used crystal meth in 1997 and failed a drug test -- a result he says was thrown out after he lied by saying he "unwittingly" took the substance.

"Shocking," Navratilova said Thursday from Sarasota, Fla., in a phone interview. "Not as much shock that he did it as shock he lied about it and didn't own up to it. He's up there with Roger Clemens, as far as I'm concerned. He owned up to it [in the book], but it doesn't help now."

Clemens, a seven-time Cy Young Award winner, has repeatedly denied using performance-enchancing drugs. His former personal trainer, Brian McNamee, claimed in the Mitchell report that he injected Clemens with steroids and human growth hormone at least 16 times in 1998, 2000 and 2001.

According to an excerpt of Agassi's autobiography "Open" published Wednesday in The Times of London, he blamed the positive drug test on accidentally drinking a soda spiked with meth. Agassi wrote that the ATP accepted his explanation and threw out the case.

"Andre lied and got away with it," Navratilova said. "You can't correct that now. Do you take away a title he wouldn't have won if he had been suspended? He beat some people when he should have been suspended."

Navratilova won a record 167 singles titles, including 18 in Grand Slam tournaments. She retired from singles in 1994 and played her last doubles match in 2006.

She said she found Agassi's decision to come out with the story now peculiar.



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"How is it going to play out for him? I don't know," she said. "I don't know why he would come out now."

Sergei Bubka, the former Olympic pole vault champion who now is a member of the International Olympic Committee, called for action to be taken against Agassi despite the World Anti-Doping Agency's eight-year statute of limitations. WADA was formed two years after the time Agassi said he used crystal meth.

"I am very disappointed with this," Bubka told Reuters by phone. "That he lied and escaped and then continued [to compete] is really disappointing.

"With Agassi's case it is a legal issue. We should consult legal experts and see if we can do something about it. I would prefer to review it from a legal point of view and then to act."

Agassi retired in 2006. His autobiography will go on sale Nov. 9

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agassi beat you punks on crystal meth. you should be embarassed faggot. safin your ass out of sports.

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MIAMI -- Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal both voiced their displeasure at Andre Agassi after the former world No. 1 revealed he took the recreational drug crystal meth in 1997 and lied about the reasons for a positive test.

"To me it seems terrible," Nadal said at an awards ceremony in Madrid on Thursday. "Why is he saying this now that he has retired? It's a way of damaging the sport that makes no sense.

"I believe our sport is clean and I am the first one that wants that. Cheaters must be punished and if Agassi was a cheater during his career he should have been punished," Nadal said.

Federer, who beat Agassi in the final of the 2005 U.S. Open, also spoke of his sadness at the eight-time Grand Slam winner's admission in his new autobiography "Open".


"It was a shock when I heard the news." Federer said at a sponsors meeting at Kilchberg near Zurich. "I am disappointed and I hope there are no more such cases in future. ... Our sport must stay clean."

However, Agassi found support at home with fellow American and Wimbledon finalist Andy Roddick saying the 39-year-old remained his hero despite the revelations.

Roddick, the leading U.S men's player who lost to Federer in this year's Wimbledon final, was one of many compatriots who remained unfazed by Agassi's admissions.

"Andre is and always will be my idol. I will judge him on how he has treated me and how he has changed the world for [the] better," Roddick wrote on his Twitter page.

Roddick said Agassi's letter to the ATP, in which he told the governing body he had failed a drug test because his drink had been spiked, came at a time when the player was far from his peak.

"To be fair, when Andre wrote the reported letter, he was well outside the top 100 and widely viewed as on the way out," said Roddick.

Serena Williams reacted to the news by plugging her own book.

"I don't even know what crystal meth is so, you know, that's what my reaction to it is. I haven't read anything about Andre Agassi's book. All I know is that I have a book coming out," she said at the WTA Championships in Doha.

Sister Venus added: "His book will probably sell. It seems very interesting, to say the least."

U.S media has been restrained in its response to Agassi's admissions, which have appeared in excerpts from the book.

The New York Times noted Agassi was able to bounce back from his dark spell and enjoy a successful end to his career.

"The question is: Might it all have turned out differently without Agassi's reprieve from the doping panel, without his lie?" The Times asked, referring to the five majors he won after 1997.

However, CBS columnist Ray Ratto questioned the motive behind Agassi's revelations.

"We're not here to kick a guy now that he's back up, although in fairness we've always found honesty to be more refreshing when it doesn't come at $31.99 a copy," he said.

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Post by Mike BLAOWery »

when did crystal meth become steroids?

are feds and nadal idiots? i can see nadal being a dumbass but feds?

you guys are morons.

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As far as I'm concerned if somebody is dominate in tennis on crystal meth their earnings should be double. People are making a mountain out of a molehill with this shit. This is not a performance enhancer, if anything it shows just how good Agassi was.

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Yeah this is all bullshit. No way in hell recreational drug use should have any affect whatsoever on how anyone looks at Agassi's career. I applaud the guy for coming out with shit he didn't have to.

The article about him in Sports Illustrated a few weeks ago (pretty sure it was actually excerpts from his book) was amazing. The story about him beating Jim Brown in a tennis game when he was 8 years old was one of the coolest things I've ever heard.

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The rest of these :owens: faggots should be embarrassed that they got beat by a meth head

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He shoulda just shut the fuck up.
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If agassi wanted to do meth, so what? It didn't help him win majors. Fuck nadal. Feds is my nigga but he disappointing me right now. Who the fuck cares about marat safin. your sister is an ogre, faggot and you coulda been a baller but instead you're a "coulda been".

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Federer and Nadal are simply p.c., condoning any kind of substance abuse would be big trouble for both of them. As for the all the retired guys shitting on Andre now, that is pretty disgusting.

That being said, I have no idea why Andre is trying everything to ruin his legacy:

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Andre Agassi admits: 'I wore a wig... and it lost me the French Open'

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Former Wimbledon champion Andre Agassi wore a lion mane-style wig during the 1990s to hide his baldness.

The tennis legend admits, in an extract of his book published in Germany yesterday, that during one match he struggled to stop it falling off altogether - and lost as a result.

'Every morning I would get up and find another piece of my identity on the pillow, in the wash basin, down the plughole.
May 1990: Andre Agassi of the USA in action during the French Open championships at Roland Garros in Paris

It was a wig: Andre Agassi, pictured at the French Open in May 1990, was known for his thick blond hair - but he has revealed it wasn't natural
Disaster: Agassi wore a toupee at the French open in 1990

Disaster: Agassi wore a toupee at the French open in 1990

'I asked myself: you want to wear a toupee? On the tennis court? I answered myself; what else could I do?'

In the French open in 1990, he was in the final, his first in a Grand Slam tournament.

'Then a fiasco happened,' he said. 'The evening before the match, I stood under the shower and felt my wig suddenly fall apart.

'Probably I used the wrong hair rinse. I panicked and called my brother Philly into the room.

'"Itג€™s a total disaster!" I said to him. He looked at it and said he could clamp it with hair clips.

'It took 20 clips. "Do you think it will hold?" I asked. "Just donג€™t move so much," he said.

'Of course I could have played without my hairpiece, but what would all the journalists have written if they knew that all the time I was really wearing a wig?

'During the warming-up training before play I prayed. Not for victory, but that my hairpiece would not fall off.

'With each leap, I imagine it falling into the sand.

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Philaflava wrote:As far as I'm concerned if somebody is dominate in tennis on crystal meth their earnings should be double. People are making a mountain out of a molehill with this shit. This is not a performance enhancer, if anything it shows just how good Agassi was.
its a stimulant, various stimulants are used as performance enhancers in a ton of sports, the biggest one being baseball where most of the league uses one regularly

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Pretty positive agassi isn't using crystal meth for an edge.

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you thought greenies were bad
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I think the point is normally someone would be punished for failing a drug test, and he got out of it with lies. Maybe they question how his rebound would have been had it been revealed that he failed a drug test

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Stunna7516 wrote:I think the point is normally someone would be punished for failing a drug test
I do agree that the ATP should strip him of any titles won during alleged time period. I have no idea if he won any. I mean technically he lied and the ATP gave him the benefit of the doubt. I think it's silly to request money back, but if he did have any wins during the time when he would have been suspended, I think he should be stripped of those titles since his lies kept him on the court when he shouldn't have been there.

As far as performance enhancing is concerned, I don't think that's relevant. Trying to strip the guy of money and titles over the course of his career is retarded. As Gloss said... he's not playing better hopped up on meth. Unfortunately, if it's a banned substance, it's a banned substance. Ricky Williams got kicked out of the NFL for smoking weed... and no one is playing better or performing better high. If meth was banned and he failed... he still should be punished and held accountable for failing a drug test.

I do however agree that other tennis personalities are making way too much of a big deal out of this. Comparing him to Roger Clemens is idiotic. He wasn't trying to be a better tennis player, he was numbing his brain. Not to mention he didn't lie about it in front of congress. He made a mistake that many people make... getting depressed and trying to make it dissappear with drugs. At least he had the balls to admit it. The tennis community should be embracing his confession instead of acting like they've never done anything wrong.

And Martina really needs to STFU. She didn't feel comfortable telling the world she loved pussy until like 1981. And why is that Martina? Were you embarassed? Were you afraid people would criticize you if you were gay? Well I'm sure Andre thought the same thing when he failed that drug test. Your first instinct is to lie your ass off.
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Mike BLAOWery wrote:agassi beat you punks on crystal meth. you should be embarassed faggot. safin your ass out of sports.

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Nuke wrote:
Stunna7516 wrote:I think the point is normally someone would be punished for failing a drug test
I do agree that the ATP should strip him of any titles won during alleged time period. I have no idea if he won any. I mean technically he lied and the ATP gave him the benefit of the doubt. I think it's silly to request money back, but if he did have any wins during the time when he would have been suspended, I think he should be stripped of those titles since his lies kept him on the court when he shouldn't have been there.
Totally disagree. He failed a drug test and the ATP chose not to suspend him, that's on them. He lied, but they didn't do their due diligence either.

I think it was pretty stupid of him to admit, but I do respect the fact that he's coming out with the truth.
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Mike BLAOWery wrote:agassi beat you punks on crystal meth. you should be embarassed faggot. safin your ass out of sports.
wow. really wow. ive done meth once and hell no does that shit give you an advantage in sports. I really can't think of any drug thatd give u an edge in tennis. acid? maybe?(a la doc ellis) weed? hell no. coke? maybe if you did rails in between sets. alcohol? nigga please.. fuck a Safin and bitch ass Rafa. tennis = :arrow:

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acid will definitely not help you in sports. i can't imagine being athletically proficient while tripping balls. the doc ellis story is a pure miracle.

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jamrage wrote:
Nuke wrote:
Stunna7516 wrote:I think the point is normally someone would be punished for failing a drug test
I do agree that the ATP should strip him of any titles won during alleged time period. I have no idea if he won any. I mean technically he lied and the ATP gave him the benefit of the doubt. I think it's silly to request money back, but if he did have any wins during the time when he would have been suspended, I think he should be stripped of those titles since his lies kept him on the court when he shouldn't have been there.
Totally disagree. He failed a drug test and the ATP chose not to suspend him, that's on them. He lied, but they didn't do their due diligence either.

I think it was pretty stupid of him to admit, but I do respect the fact that he's coming out with the truth.
You have a good point here.
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alpha wrote:
Mike BLAOWery wrote:agassi beat you punks on crystal meth. you should be embarassed faggot. safin your ass out of sports.
wow. really wow. ive done meth once and hell no does that shit give you an advantage in sports. I really can't think of any drug thatd give u an edge in tennis. acid? maybe?(a la doc ellis) weed? hell no. coke? maybe if you did rails in between sets. alcohol? nigga please.. fuck a Safin and bitch ass Rafa. tennis = :arrow:
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Stunna7516 wrote:
alpha wrote:
Mike BLAOWery wrote:agassi beat you punks on crystal meth. you should be embarassed faggot. safin your ass out of sports.
wow. really wow. ive done meth once and hell no does that shit give you an advantage in sports. I really can't think of any drug thatd give u an edge in tennis. acid? maybe?(a la doc ellis) weed? hell no. coke? maybe if you did rails in between sets. alcohol? nigga please.. fuck a Safin and bitch ass Rafa. tennis = :arrow:
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You think weed makes you a better tennis player? I'd love to hear this theory.
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