Joell Ortiz - Night Train (Video)
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Joell Ortiz - Night Train (Video)
It's hard to pull off the everyday struggle, up-from-the-bottom rap songs without coming off as cliched or corny, especially with a singer on the chorus. This is kind of nice though. Great video too.
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Figured you would've heard of him because he was damn near the only vocalist that Rawkus signed towards the end of their reign.Thun wrote:Who is Novel? I thought JuJu joined Mint Condition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novel_(musician)
He's kind of in the realm with Lyfe Jennings, Raheem DeVaughn, and etc. But he never got as much shine.
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Actually I think you may have mentioned him before.ardamus wrote:Figured you would've heard of him because he was damn near the only vocalist that Rawkus signed towards the end of their reign.Thun wrote:Who is Novel? I thought JuJu joined Mint Condition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novel_(musician)
He's kind of in the realm with Lyfe Jennings, Raheem DeVaughn, and etc. But he never got as much shine.
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It was probably years ago when I mentioned him.Thun wrote:Actually I think you may have mentioned him before.ardamus wrote:Figured you would've heard of him because he was damn near the only vocalist that Rawkus signed towards the end of their reign.Thun wrote:Who is Novel? I thought JuJu joined Mint Condition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novel_(musician)
He's kind of in the realm with Lyfe Jennings, Raheem DeVaughn, and etc. But he never got as much shine.
I didn't realize it but they work together alot. Here's their mixtape they put out earlier this year.
http://www.datpiff.com/Joell_Ortiz_Nove ... 96845.html
Here's two other mixtapes that Novel put out.
Suspended Animation
http://www.datpiff.com/Novel_Suspended_ ... 53862.html
Legato Blues Summer
http://www.datpiff.com/NOVEL_Legato_Blu ... 55102.html
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This song is straight. Don't understand the hate that Joell Ortiz gets from certain people on this board, but he gets it in on underground and mainstream song attempts.
On don't know if he is signed at the moment, but he is always putting at videos with decent sized budgets.
I believe that Novel sung on that "Call Me" joint too.
On don't know if he is signed at the moment, but he is always putting at videos with decent sized budgets.
I believe that Novel sung on that "Call Me" joint too.
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Re: Joell Ortiz - Night Train (Video)
Agree with everything you said.Icesickle wrote:It's hard to pull off the everyday struggle, up-from-the-bottom rap songs without coming off as cliched or corny, especially with a singer on the chorus. This is kind of nice though. Great video too.
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His voice cracks a lot lately and he raps over a lot of beats that clash with it.ardamus wrote:can't remember who it was but someone kept saying he an annoying voice in every thread about him. never thought Ortiz was bad. he did his thing on the Slaughterhouse album.
He also sounds awful on old school beats for some reason.
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Joell, like the Clipse, Saigon, Joe Budden, and others, is one of those rappers that takes full advantage of the fact that the playing field has been made too equal in our modern age, and thinks that nobody notices. He acts like he's the fucking second coming of Rakim because he can reference Carhartt jackets and use a polysyllabic word every five songs. He's not even the second coming of Big Noyd. Get off it.
Does he though? Or do the people who back him push this image?Thun wrote:He acts like he's the fucking second coming of Rakim because he can reference Carhartt jackets and use a polysyllabic word every five songs.
I have never seen or heard him acting like anything more than he is, a throwback, traditional NY rapper. He comes across as a real humble dude.
He's not though. He's a weak facsimile of that era. Not wack, but not worthy of the title, unless you consider that the ones who did earn it no longer make music worth checking out. Listen to him rap over old school beats, he sounds horribly inadequate. That doesn't make him a bad person, but imo it's a dumb marketing strategy.Smitty wrote:Does he though? Or do the people who back him push this image?Thun wrote:He acts like he's the fucking second coming of Rakim because he can reference Carhartt jackets and use a polysyllabic word every five songs.
I have never seen or heard him acting like anything more than he is, a throwback, traditional NY rapper. He comes across as a real humble dude.
Yeah, don't see that either. I haven't heard everything he's done but from what I've heard, he just makes some dope shit and thats it. His only downfall from time to time were his hooks. But that was in the early stages of him getting out there; which is good for him to link up with Novel.Thun wrote:Joell, like the Clipse, Saigon, Joe Budden, and others, is one of those rappers that takes full advantage of the fact that the playing field has been made too equal in our modern age, and thinks that nobody notices. He acts like he's the fucking second coming of Rakim because he can reference Carhartt jackets and use a polysyllabic word every five songs. He's not even the second coming of Big Noyd. Get off it.
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Joell Ortiz is a better lyricist and more articulate MC than most rappers today, including his fellow Slaughterhouse members, the punks at the top of the charts, and Lil' B or anyone out of Odd Future. He just makes dope music; he's clearly a good rapper. Him and Saigon should have had at least a few albums under their belts now... Too many mixtapes, although there is good material to be found in them.Thun wrote:He's not though. He's a weak facsimile of that era. Not wack, but not worthy of the title, unless you consider that the ones who did earn it no longer make music worth checking out. Listen to him rap over old school beats, he sounds horribly inadequate. That doesn't make him a bad person, but imo it's a dumb marketing strategy.Smitty wrote:Does he though? Or do the people who back him push this image?Thun wrote:He acts like he's the fucking second coming of Rakim because he can reference Carhartt jackets and use a polysyllabic word every five songs.
I have never seen or heard him acting like anything more than he is, a throwback, traditional NY rapper. He comes across as a real humble dude.
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This track is better than the video, produced by Large Professor. Not as good as Project Boy, but still dope. Hook ain't good on this one though..
http://usershare.net/2DopeBoyz/748ipi660vyj
http://usershare.net/2DopeBoyz/748ipi660vyj