truthaddict wrote:
I think I remember this. Didn't he write an open letter to MF Doom or something complaining about him pulling off some Andy Kaufman shit at his shows? Link Please.
None of these covers really fuck with Bill Withers. I have never cringed so much from an American Idol performance, than hearing some bullshit John Mayer sounding butchering of this. Fuck that show.
The Lynn Collins version does do it justice, though.
... Read the first comment on the youtube video here:
truthaddict wrote:
I think I remember this. Didn't he write an open letter to MF Doom or something complaining about him pulling off some Andy Kaufman shit at his shows? Link Please.
ric wrote:if nothing else, doing the research is a sign that kno knew he was playing the game and now hes taking an L
Yeah, that was the point, it could have been prevented most likely.
if i stole his shit and sold it im pretty sure hed be mad
Come on man... are there hiphop-fans who think sampling is unethical? Good grief. He specifically said hes far from wealthy and money isn't his main motivation.
I'm not Kno's lawyer or even a fan of his, he was sometimes a prick on HHI, but I can empathize with him here.
Whether to Jason of Philaflava or John Podesta, I will speak my fucking perspective openly
- MB
Thread would be a lot different if it was Blockhead who was the one who got caught.
Don't really care who Kno is as a person and none of the Cunninglynguists are exceptional rappers but I thoroughly enjoy most of their records, especially APOS and Dirty Acres.
Seriously dont get what anyone can expect about this at this point. I mean if people were sending alerts to publishing companies thats one thing, but youtube sample outings are inevitable.
Blockhead wrote:Anyone know what the sample was? I'd be curious to hear what he got caught on.
You better watch your internet back, borks could be posting "float" sample sources in troy as we speak.
Not a day goes by when I don't expect about 400 cease and desist letters in the mail.
I think it blows that Kno got caught but it happens...completely randomly. Record nerds are a funny breed. They're able to worship something and at the same time active take part in destroying it. Cool move, bro's.
Blockhead wrote:Record nerds are a funny breed. They're able to worship something and at the same time active take part in destroying it. Cool move, bro's.
Record nerds are seriously the weirdest and most annoying motherfuckers on the face of the earth. I seriously want to punch them in the face on a regular basis.
Seriously dont get what anyone can expect about this at this point. I mean if people were sending alerts to publishing companies thats one thing, but youtube sample outings are inevitable.
Word. Don't tell someone that you know that doesn't like sampling and you know that so-and-so got a sample from and you know good and damn well that they can't afford the clearance. WTF son.....
"tim dog! i hope he's scamming bitches in heaven.." - EichTurner
If true you just shit down the neck of my rambling "context" with a complete and total of compact, single sentence context.
If true, well fuck me then.
Not really, though, Kno's position is both understandable and foolishly idealistic, I agree. He just happens to have douche-like internetting tendencies.
If true you just shit down the neck of my rambling "context" with a complete and total of compact, single sentence context.
If true, well fuck me then.
Not really, though, Kno's position is both understandable and foolishly idealistic, I agree. He just happens to have douche-like internetting tendencies.
Agreed, but moral/ethical pleas to strangers are entirely dependent on being convincing and without contradiction. He's making a moral/ethical plea to strangers to respect the positions he's in.
If in the past he has used the position he was in (previously sunnier, no doubt) to mock the positions that strangers on the Internet are in it puts the response to him in an entirely different context.
Basically, if there's KNO and The Internet, I was only focusing on where he was coming from -- I still think that's valid, but it doesn't do much to explain the response to him (if what you say is true, imo, also valid).
Honestly all the CL dudes are good guys, and Kno's rationale is sound. This blows but in all honesty I'm a bit surprised that it took this long for a cease & desist to happen.
As a guy that hasn't had the opportunity to read the open letter to DOOM that Kno wrote, I'd like to say that I find it to be pretty on point. DOOM needs to get over his social anxiety disorder or whatever the fuck his problem is. Didn't Mos Def call him out on that shit on their dual headline tour not so long ago?
Kno's letter was basically saying that DOOM's fuckery [and that is what it was, laziness and fuckery] would end up costing other hip-hop acts when people who are already reluctant to book rappers get burned by a big name like DOOM. The logic was that it just gives them even more reason to become non-rap venues and the result is that it hurts other artists who are actually showing up and doing their shows.
I am a big DOOM fan, but I cannot co-sign stealing from your fan base in quite so disrespectful a fashion. Isn't it enough to put out every beat three times and recycle tracks whenever possible?
As far as Kno's current problem, obviously people are going to do what they want and he apparently acknowledges that but is not going to keep sampling if his own fans dont want to be more discreet. The shortsightedness of online communities is always baffling to me. It's like if back in the day you have a favorite weed spot and you start just telling everyone you see on the street where it's at and posting up signs for where to get that "good dro".
The benefit: meagre and fleeting props
The downside: spot busted and you are back to hiking fifteen blocks uptown to get skimped for some seedy bamboozle
Busta Ry wrote:As a guy that hasn't had the opportunity to read the open letter to DOOM that Kno wrote, I'd like to say that I find it to be pretty on point. DOOM needs to get over his social anxiety disorder or whatever the fuck his problem is. Didn't Mos Def call him out on that shit on their dual headline tour not so long ago?
People need to get over shit in general. Get over cancer, AIDS, homosexuality, diabetes, hypertension, schizophrenia, whatever these faggots have. Some deceased rappers need to get over their deaths because they owe internet rap fans new material and good shows.
Busta Ry wrote:As a guy that hasn't had the opportunity to read the open letter to DOOM that Kno wrote, I'd like to say that I find it to be pretty on point. DOOM needs to get over his social anxiety disorder or whatever the fuck his problem is. Didn't Mos Def call him out on that shit on their dual headline tour not so long ago?
People need to get over shit in general. Get over cancer, AIDS, homosexuality, diabetes, hypertension, schizophrenia, whatever these faggots have. Some deceased rappers need to get over their deaths because they owe internet rap fans new material and good shows.
I see your point, but honestly if you have social anxiety issues dont tour. Simple as that.
Busta Ry wrote:As a guy that hasn't had the opportunity to read the open letter to DOOM that Kno wrote, I'd like to say that I find it to be pretty on point. DOOM needs to get over his social anxiety disorder or whatever the fuck his problem is. Didn't Mos Def call him out on that shit on their dual headline tour not so long ago?
People need to get over shit in general. Get over cancer, AIDS, homosexuality, diabetes, hypertension, schizophrenia, whatever these faggots have. Some deceased rappers need to get over their deaths because they owe internet rap fans new material and good shows.
I see your point, but honestly if you have social anxiety issues dont tour. Simple as that.
It really is that simple, but hold up...people really think DOOM was doing all of that because of social anxiety?