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Midseason NBA Awards
My brother posted this, http://comeupking.blogspot.com/2012/02/ ... wards.html. I agree with most of it.
MVP: Lebron easily. No way to justify anyone else.
Rookie of the year: Irving. Not even close.
6th man: Harden. Not even close.
Coach of the year: Popovich. Keeping this aging Spurs team in 2nd in the West. Thibs is close second. Is Bulls winning without Rose proving defense/Thibs deserves more credit then Rose?
Defensive Player of the Year: Howard. Has not played as good as expected though.
Most Improved: Lowry?
People can pick Lin, but he never had a chance to play so I don't think that can count as improved... Just got more playing time. By end of the season I think Batum or George should get it.
MVP: Lebron easily. No way to justify anyone else.
Rookie of the year: Irving. Not even close.
6th man: Harden. Not even close.
Coach of the year: Popovich. Keeping this aging Spurs team in 2nd in the West. Thibs is close second. Is Bulls winning without Rose proving defense/Thibs deserves more credit then Rose?
Defensive Player of the Year: Howard. Has not played as good as expected though.
Most Improved: Lowry?
People can pick Lin, but he never had a chance to play so I don't think that can count as improved... Just got more playing time. By end of the season I think Batum or George should get it.
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i always argue the definition of MVP. Lebron isn't the guy carrying miami that would make him the most valuable. in the east, miami would be in relatively the same place (record wise)
he is the featured guy on a great team filled with predetermined all stars. there are a few guys out there who are literally carrying their team and without them, the team would be terrible. maybe i just see it differently
agree on harden, but its not a foregone conclusion
popa? obvi, its like handing him the award without checking because he always does it.
he is the featured guy on a great team filled with predetermined all stars. there are a few guys out there who are literally carrying their team and without them, the team would be terrible. maybe i just see it differently
agree on harden, but its not a foregone conclusion
popa? obvi, its like handing him the award without checking because he always does it.
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Pretty good.
Giving the DPOY award to the same guy every year gets boring after a while, though. They might just give it to Lebron this year.
He's out there with Jason Richardson, Ryan Anderson, Hedo Turkoglu, JJ Redick, etc, and the Magic still rank at #12 in defensive efficiency? I'd say that's pretty damn impressive.No one stands out here. Dwight Howard is still the league's most feared defender, but with Orlando having only the league's 12th best defensive efficiency, he is not playing up to his usual standard (though it should be noted that he's surrounded by horrid defenders)
Giving the DPOY award to the same guy every year gets boring after a while, though. They might just give it to Lebron this year.
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so what? Lebron would make those teams better if he was the one carrying them because he is the player with the most value.capable_keL wrote:i always argue the definition of MVP. Lebron isn't the guy carrying miami that would make him the most valuable. in the east, miami would be in relatively the same place (record wise)
he is the featured guy on a great team filled with predetermined all stars. there are a few guys out there who are literally carrying their team and without them, the team would be terrible. maybe i just see it differently
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If I'm holding a $50 bill, two $20s, and two $5s...the fifty is still more valuable than somebody's $20 bill surrounded by four $5s.
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so what? so lebron is not the most valuable since the team would still have the relative same success without himThe Rapping Coffin wrote:so what? Lebron would make those teams better if he was the one carrying them because he is the player with the most value.capable_keL wrote:i always argue the definition of MVP. Lebron isn't the guy carrying miami that would make him the most valuable. in the east, miami would be in relatively the same place (record wise)
he is the featured guy on a great team filled with predetermined all stars. there are a few guys out there who are literally carrying their team and without them, the team would be terrible. maybe i just see it differently
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If I'm holding a $50 bill, two $20s, and two $5s...the fifty is still more valuable than somebody's $20 bill surrounded by four $5s.
he's not on another team, he's on the heat and is not the most valuable, the most premeditated weapon? yes. but he is not the most valuable to the teams success.
is the mvp just the best player on the best team? if so its lebron
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So the most valuable player in the league is penalized because he is on a team with good players? we should give the award to less valuable players because they are on shitty teams? That makes sense to you?capable_keL wrote:so what? so lebron is not the most valuable since the team would still have the relative same success without himThe Rapping Coffin wrote:so what? Lebron would make those teams better if he was the one carrying them because he is the player with the most value.capable_keL wrote:i always argue the definition of MVP. Lebron isn't the guy carrying miami that would make him the most valuable. in the east, miami would be in relatively the same place (record wise)
he is the featured guy on a great team filled with predetermined all stars. there are a few guys out there who are literally carrying their team and without them, the team would be terrible. maybe i just see it differently
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If I'm holding a $50 bill, two $20s, and two $5s...the fifty is still more valuable than somebody's $20 bill surrounded by four $5s.
he's not on another team, he's on the heat and is not the most valuable, the most premeditated weapon? yes. but he is not the most valuable to the teams success.
is the mvp just the best player on the best team? if so its lebron
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Let's go back to my analogy. You are arguing that if we take away my $50 and your $20, that your $20 is worth more because you are left with $20 (four $5 bills) and I'd be left with $50 (two $20s, and two $5s). That's retard logic.
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yeah, but you are ignoring that he is the beneficiary of great talent across the board. better than any other player, better than any other team.
if you are going to ignore all the other variables that help him and conclude he must be the best playing with wade and that staff then fine.
if the mvp is defined by the guy in the best situation with the best talent, he wins.
but there are other guys more valuable to their team than lebron. if you cant accept that then we're looking at the definition different
if you are going to ignore all the other variables that help him and conclude he must be the best playing with wade and that staff then fine.
if the mvp is defined by the guy in the best situation with the best talent, he wins.
but there are other guys more valuable to their team than lebron. if you cant accept that then we're looking at the definition different
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it's called Most Valuable Player. Which means the player with the most value.
Even by your made up "most valuable to your own team" definition it would still be Lebron imo. 16 teams make the playoffs, 16!! Making the playoffs in the NBA is not that hard- what is hard is getting to the finals and being a title contender. You take Lebron off Miami and they are a 3 or 4 seed and probably don't make the ECF. The leap from conference semi-final to title contender is huge in the NBA.
Even by your made up "most valuable to your own team" definition it would still be Lebron imo. 16 teams make the playoffs, 16!! Making the playoffs in the NBA is not that hard- what is hard is getting to the finals and being a title contender. You take Lebron off Miami and they are a 3 or 4 seed and probably don't make the ECF. The leap from conference semi-final to title contender is huge in the NBA.
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Bulls - Rose are better than Miami - Lebroncapable_keL wrote:yeah, but you are ignoring that he is the beneficiary of great talent across the board. better than any other player, better than any other team.
if you are going to ignore all the other variables that help him and conclude he must be the best playing with wade and that staff then fine.
if the mvp is defined by the guy in the best situation with the best talent, he wins.
but there are other guys more valuable to their team than lebron. if you cant accept that then we're looking at the definition different
there might be more examples but that one is clear
Lebron could turn Charlotte into a playoff team