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Not clear on this point. What did i dismiss? I like a lot of g-funk and stuff from that era. I think that point is getting lost in all this. I simply Prefer other shit over it.Employee wrote:I hear you, man, but come on: you literally dismissed like two decades of music (a lot of which is arguably very dope).Blockhead wrote:This is all trivial. we're talking about rap on a message board. What could be more trivial? Surely you, of all people, can relate to that.
I do obsess over small things sometimes but that's more my old man rap nerd rage than anything.
also, talking rap with ackbar is equal parts fascinating and infuriating.
Did I say the west coast loops more? Cause that's wildly inaccurate. The west coast definitively was fucking with live instruments way more than the east coast. Between in studio guys and the abundance of synths, there's no comparison. which leads me too...EichTurner wrote:
everyone's gonna get on blockhead's case for that one but i got to say i'm not so sure about west coast artists looping things more than east coast artists. the first flip that came to mind for more bounce to an ounce was brotha lynch 'had 2 gat ya' and that's a crazy flip.. and then i thought w.c. and the madd circle and they flipped shit crazy.. i don't know i'm kinda running down a quick list in my mind and i don't think that description of the west coast just looping shit (especially way more that the east coast did) is accurate.
I think you took me literally here. I'm not saying they are like a bunch of dads playing at the local dive bar for their wives. I meant they're musicians who ,while clearly skilled, aren't exactly making musical history with their compositions. Those clips that Akbar posted really proved my point more than I could ever do with words. Crappy sounding synths, the famous "atomic dog" inspired clap snare that EVERYONE used, and live instrumentation that, despite what the people disagreeing with me might say, it just some run of the mill funk/blues shit. They even would throw in some corny noodling on the guitar here and there to really bring it home.i'm not gonna even get in to the greatness of the like of khayree and ant banks replaying shit or in khayree case straight composing shit ... but they are NOT on the level of a bar band. you're average bar band is not making that shit sound so hip hop.. that's the amazing originality of it.. studio ton..
i guess agree to disagree.. it's very specifically some hip hop shit and you got to be able to know how to play it in that way. it sounds like some funky hip hop and kinda takes funk to the next level just like sampling old soul song takes them a step further.Blockhead wrote:Did I say the west coast loops more? Cause that's wildly inaccurate. The west coast definitively was fucking with live instruments way more than the east coast. Between in studio guys and the abundance of synths, there's no comparison. which leads me too...EichTurner wrote:
everyone's gonna get on blockhead's case for that one but i got to say i'm not so sure about west coast artists looping things more than east coast artists. the first flip that came to mind for more bounce to an ounce was brotha lynch 'had 2 gat ya' and that's a crazy flip.. and then i thought w.c. and the madd circle and they flipped shit crazy.. i don't know i'm kinda running down a quick list in my mind and i don't think that description of the west coast just looping shit (especially way more that the east coast did) is accurate.
I think you took me literally here. I'm not saying they are like a bunch of dads playing at the local dive bar for their wives. I meant they're musicians who ,while clearly skilled, aren't exactly making musical history with their compositions. Those clips that Akbar posted really proved my point more than I could ever do with words. Crappy sounding synths, the famous "atomic dog" inspired clap snare that EVERYONE used, and live instrumentation that, despite what the people disagreeing with me might say, it just some run of the mill funk/blues shit. They even would throw in some corny noodling on the guitar here and there to really bring it home.i'm not gonna even get in to the greatness of the like of khayree and ant banks replaying shit or in khayree case straight composing shit ... but they are NOT on the level of a bar band. you're average bar band is not making that shit sound so hip hop.. that's the amazing originality of it.. studio ton..
Is it all bad? Certainly not. But the majority of it never worked for me.
Honestly, I'd take the same stance against much of the Coup's live instrument based production work and I love lots of their music. I dunno. I just don't see it.
Oh and I checked out on fucking with Above the law after "Black mafia life" so, there's that too.
But hey, you guys enjoy it. I'm not here to stop you from that. after all, this is the "chill west coast" thread.