2014-15 NBA Off-Season Thread
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if he can learn to handle the rock he's gonna be great
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Not that he didn't well at KU, but that athleticism is built for the NBA. 'Bron gonna make sure he works hard.
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The step back jumper Wiggins has shown in summer league is also a major upgrade.
Bron needs to get him on that meal/weight room plan, and that will take his game to another level.
Bron needs to get him on that meal/weight room plan, and that will take his game to another level.
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it's not like bron can take his talent and give it to wiggins. lebron aint a coach, why are people so focused on bron being responsible for wiggins' develoment?
i doubt any missing element of wiggins' NBA game is gonna be provided by lebron, its gonna help playing with the best player in the world but lets not act like all he has to do is sprinkle some king james dust on him and suddenly he's KD
i doubt any missing element of wiggins' NBA game is gonna be provided by lebron, its gonna help playing with the best player in the world but lets not act like all he has to do is sprinkle some king james dust on him and suddenly he's KD
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that's the point dun, you think scottie doesn't become scottie without MJ? but it's gotta be a big motivator to a guy like Wiggins to play with Bron and impress him. Whereas he ends up in Minny all he's playing for is his next contract.its gonna help playing with the best player in the world
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I agree, but I thought it was stupid to compare today's players to MJ? Thats what i was told last page
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C'mon Kel.
Just the single fact that Wiggins will be practicing against Lebron on a daily basis will elevate his game.
Any advice, leadership, tutelage, LBJ can give him as a former #1 pick to help his development is only butter on his biscuits.
Just the single fact that Wiggins will be practicing against Lebron on a daily basis will elevate his game.
Any advice, leadership, tutelage, LBJ can give him as a former #1 pick to help his development is only butter on his biscuits.
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Of course, but l've heard folks (nobody here) say that playing along bron will instantly turn him Into a star. I didnt see him much in college, but after SL i have a few questions, mainly ball handling. For the record, i love him and would trade love/rubio for him. Playing aside LBJ doesnt automatically change anything instantly, there will be growing painsVideoKilledThe wrote:C'mon Kel.
Just the single fact that Wiggins will be practicing against Lebron on a daily basis will elevate his game.
Any advice, leadership, tutelage, LBJ can give him as a former #1 pick to help his development is only butter on his biscuits.
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Growing pains for sure, ball handling needs improvement esp his left hand, as well as his jumper shot...but
make no doubt about it, he is a star.
make no doubt about it, he is a star.
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just the work he's put in on his jumper since March is pretty telling. Kid rates out as a plus defender in the long run. Coming home to Kyrie and a player who might be just as good. This was a no brainer from a bball standpoint.
How come noones brings up the fact that Bron will get Kyrie to D finally? at least I'd guess he's gonna try.
How come noones brings up the fact that Bron will get Kyrie to D finally? at least I'd guess he's gonna try.
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I was surprised to hear that Poppabitch does not rate Kyrie.
Dude is one of the best ball handlers in the league.
Dude is one of the best ball handlers in the league.
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Bombshell and good for him. He'll be in the NBA next year for real.
Bombshell and good for him. He'll be in the NBA next year for real.
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I don't think it's so absurd. Kyrie is for sure one of the best at his position, but I would say Love is one of the top players in the league.VideoKilledThe wrote:I was surprised to hear that Poppabitch does not rate Kyrie.
Dude is one of the best ball handlers in the league.
Trading Wiggins for Love is getting a sure thing no doubt. But trading a player who's fun to watch for Love and keeping a potential franchise player to build your future team around? Seems obvious.
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Also LeBron isn't getting younger, you could say the need to win now is even greater but what are the Cavs when James loses his step and Love and Kyrie are all that's left? The Timberwolves?
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Kyrie sucks on defense and has made NO ONE better. It's your job as a point guard and a #1 overall pick to help your teammates look better. People hate on Melo but suck off Kyrie's dick for the same reason.Ramen wrote:I don't think it's so absurd. Kyrie is for sure one of the best at his position, but I would say Love is one of the top players in the league.VideoKilledThe wrote:I was surprised to hear that Poppabitch does not rate Kyrie.
Dude is one of the best ball handlers in the league.
Trading Wiggins for Love is getting a sure thing no doubt. But trading a player who's fun to watch for Love and keeping a potential franchise player to build your future team around? Seems obvious.
He is a top 5 ball handler in the NBA if he isn't the best though.
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the hate on kyrie is overrated just like the hate on meloGregg Popabitch wrote: Kyrie sucks on defense and has made NO ONE better. It's your job as a point guard and a #1 overall pick to help your teammates look better. People hate on Melo but suck off Kyrie's dick for the same reason.
bottom line we put them on pedestals and then homed in on their weaknesses when they disappointed us/got exposed and we won't let it go b/c we hold them to this standard of "superstar"
when in reality we should just accept the fact that there have probably been players in the past whose defense was equally suspect but whose teammates picked them up and hid such deficiencies (or similarly in melo's case, we say he can't be a playmaker but in reality he's never really had the teammates or asked to fill that role by coaches to be in such a mode), for example, though true heads noted iverson's actual overall defensive issues, the vast majority of fans would not remember iverson's faults and even the opposite, would probably call him a good defender (them steals :-p), whereas mutombo/ratliff/young raja bell/mckie who was literally in only for his defense/eric snow/etc. hid iverson's faults and let his brilliant part of his game (offense) shine that much more.
let irving have lebron and wiggins making up for his defensive inefficiencies and all of a sudden in five years nobody but us nerds are talking about irving's poor defensive effort.
and yes obviously having two defenders who can cover as much ground as wiggy/bron will make defense/defensive spacing better for irving leading to more opportunities for the counting stats
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Don't get me wrong.....espn and SI, when they did their player rankings, had him in the top 10-12 players in the NBA when they did their player rankings at the beginning of last season. When I did my rankings for players, it was closer to top 20-25.
Even though I think Irving is overrated, I feel like Irving will actually help Lebron a lot. He needs someone to take the pressure off of him in terms of bringing the ball up and initiating offense. Irving is already the best PG Lebron has ever played with.
Even though I think Irving is overrated, I feel like Irving will actually help Lebron a lot. He needs someone to take the pressure off of him in terms of bringing the ball up and initiating offense. Irving is already the best PG Lebron has ever played with.
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Boobie Gibson!!!!
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lance to the hornets
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I think it's interesting as hell that Stephenson wanted a shorter deal.an-also wrote:lance to the hornets
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Meanwhile Washington quietly cooking.
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The Dejuan Blair move and signing Humphries? meh. It's a good move for depth but they don't have a stretch 4 or stretch 5 and they will go into the year with Otto Porter as their starting SF.Ramen wrote:Meanwhile Washington quietly cooking.
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Dawg. Fwill...so insane. Can not WAIT to see him on that purple n gold.capable_keL wrote:These exum highlights are getting my dick hard
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Is Pierce hurt? Cause, otherwise, pretty sure he's gonna start for the Wiz.Gregg Popabitch wrote:The Dejuan Blair move and signing Humphries? meh. It's a good move for depth but they don't have a stretch 4 or stretch 5 and they will go into the year with Otto Porter as their starting SF.Ramen wrote:Meanwhile Washington quietly cooking.
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Oh shit. Good call. I completely forgot about that.Blockhead wrote:Is Pierce hurt? Cause, otherwise, pretty sure he's gonna start for the Wiz.Gregg Popabitch wrote:The Dejuan Blair move and signing Humphries? meh. It's a good move for depth but they don't have a stretch 4 or stretch 5 and they will go into the year with Otto Porter as their starting SF.Ramen wrote:Meanwhile Washington quietly cooking.
It's going to be interesting to see how he fits as the starting SF though. He's older and not as good on defense as Ariza was. If Otto Porter upgrades his game to be Ariza lite off the bench though, they'll be okay.
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Throughout his career Ariza has proved he plays very well during contract years.
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Why wouldn't the Pacers offer 3/30 and be done with it? If the guy wants 3 instead of 5, what's the big deal? That's less of a risk for you too, why have such a hard-on for the longer contract to the point that he actually walks away from it. Now they have a gaping hole at SG and still have George Hill (making $8m/yr) as your starting PG. I guess I shouldn't expect logic from this team considering the max deal they gave Roy Hibbert.
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