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Pretend Black Guy wrote:Man, gonna have to vote for Kendrick's vastly-overrated spoken word jazz-funk album purely on account of it having 2 killer singles + 1 good one.
yeaaa .... was a bit confused about that, as the reception for that album in M2C was very lukewarm.EMCEE DARTH MALEK wrote:i only nominated that earl joint to split votes from summertime 06 and now suckers are actually voting for it
lurkers wrote:i don't like shit, i don't go outside
It's definitely a more "mature" perspective on display and a more cohesive project than either of the two aforementioned. But to me, it also came across as a very forced, even contrived, concept album. Like Good Kid, Maad City as performed by Vincent Staples, Odd Future affiliate, in double-album form.drizzle wrote:You're not the only one who thinks that but to me the direction he's moving shows growth not regression. I don't love everything on the album but it adds up overall imo.
Hell Can Wait is a tough one to compare to, it's an ep of like 5-6 bangers each of which could've been an album single, with only 1 song that feels like a bside or filler. Makes a very different impression than a 20 track album.
Versive wrote:It's definitely a more "mature" perspective on display and a more cohesive project than either of the two aforementioned. But to me, it also came across as a very forced, even contrived, concept album. Like Good Kid, Maad City as performed by Vincent Staples, Odd Future affiliate, in double-album form.drizzle wrote: Hell Can Wait is a tough one to compare to, it's an ep of like 5-6 bangers each of which could've been an album single, with only 1 song that feels like a bside or filler. Makes a very different impression than a 20 track album.
I feel he has a more unique view than what was shown here.
My issue isn't that he's using concepts and storylines similar to Kendrick's; it's that, to me, it feels like in doing so, he's merely watering down his own perspective, which Gold Chain 2 proved to be unique and strong enough to hold down an album's worth of material. I don't want to hear Vincent Staples do the album that the people at Def Jam would've asked him for; I want to hear him continue to develop his own voice, which I think he will, which is why I'm still looking forward to whatever he does next. Point is I know he's got the potential to be way iller than Kendrick, but this wasn't a step in the right direction.drizzle wrote:I think calling it a Kendrick album without the jazz-fusion or preachy savior pretensions would be a compliment, not a detraction. Similar message but delivered in a stronger and more concise and clear and more palpable way. Also really like that Vince, unlike Kendrick, def sees rap as a powerful tool and an end onto itself instead of a launching platform for his preaching and a stepping stone into other genres.
Blockhead wrote:I can't even front, by far, I listened to the drake album (or at least 8 or 9 songs of it) the most. Gotta be honest and just admit that. It gets my vote.
both these albums i love to burn a joint & throw on. the thing with butterfly is, there's two or (pushing it) three songs you can really throw on out of the context of the album & it's gonna have the same effect as when you play the album front to back. that speaks to the quality of kendrick's artistic vision+sequencing, but i feel it makes the album less versatile. also as a bunch of people mentioned, making a jazz fusion album in 2015 is a bit of a gimmick/'concept piece'.B. Ware tha Siniq wrote:To Pimp A Butterfly. It's a tough album to really sit with, but it's really good. Sometimes I think it's important for music to take us places we aren't entirely comfortable going.
Is this a fancy way of admitting it's just 'rap about rap'?drizzle wrote:I think calling it a Kendrick album without the jazz-fusion or preachy savior pretensions would be a compliment, not a detraction. Similar message but delivered in a stronger and more concise and clear and more palpable way. Also really like that Vince, unlike Kendrick, def sees rap as a powerful tool and an end onto itself instead of a launching platform for his preaching and a stepping stone into other genres.
I tried with the singles, "Norf Norf" and "Senorita". Don't care for either. What track might convert a hater like me?drizzle wrote:no but I think you just came up with a fancy way of admitting you haven't actually heard a single minute of his album
I'm not a fan of those songs in particular, but I recommend soaking in the entire album for a week or so. Shit grows on you. Solid album. His ep was great too. Hell Can Wait.Gyangsta 4 Life wrote:Emp, it's certainly a frustrating album, but can you not appreciate shit like "Mortal Man" or "These Walls"? Good beats, good flows.
I tried with the singles, "Norf Norf" and "Senorita". Don't care for either. What track might convert a hater like me?drizzle wrote:no but I think you just came up with a fancy way of admitting you haven't actually heard a single minute of his album