Employee wrote:Despite Yak's sarcasm, $30 for a digital copy (pllus a CD?) especially of this kind of low-t output on Roc's part simply isn't a good value. If it was something akin to Reloaded I'd be able to logically justify the purchase in my own mind.
Yes, apologies - was being a dick.
But agree that Aesop Rock might not be the best example, given that he has a fairly large core of older fans that might have been buying his output for 18 years, and it's those guys that still seem to be willing to part with cash for an album in this day and age.
I get Phila's general point, but I think it's the artists occupying the middle-ground currently that couldn't pull this off. Like, if Premier and Royce were looking for $25/30 up front for that thing they just put out, I couldn't see it ending too well.
Y@k Bollox wrote:
I get Phila's general point, but I think it's the artists occupying the middle-ground currently that couldn't pull this off. Like, if Premier and Royce were looking for $25/30 up front for that thing they just put out, I couldn't see it ending too well.
that seems about right, you need cult status or like Beyonce status. and this formula might not even make sense for the latter because a Beyonce album is pretty much guaranteed to do numbers so there's no need to play around with the formula to make a profit.
RR2 is the Jeb Bush of Roc's discography: low-t. Listening to it and then Reloaded, the canyon between the two works is a chasm wider than Lindsay Lohan can stretch her legs. Yes: there's a number of years between the two, but that should be a positive at this point for Roc.
I would imagine this has been discussed ad nauseum, but Pirate Knowledge (yes, I know that's not his name, but it's close enough (that's what she said)) sidekick is a real drag. In the past I guess he was tolerable because I was listening for some Marci-A-Lago Escargot. However, he is insufferable on RR2. Action Bronson is tiresome and is a sort of top shelf Rap Cameo Sidekick version of Pirate Knowledge. Marciano symbolizes an effortless luxury that sounds deceptively lethargic when you first start to enjoy his rugged, lady-controlling flavors. Bronson's whole sweaty, mouthbreathing, Rap Selfie essence clashes, in the wrong way, with Roc's stealth.
Production is weird; definition of "hit-and-miss." He certainly continues to build on his aesthetic by way of his aesthetic choices here. It's nothing to write home about though. I feel the danger, but I don't feel the danger.
Marci-A-Lago Escargot gets props because his intentions are to pimp and make it translate in a way that's as effortless as a round of mini-golf. His nuance is as expansive here as it's ever been, but there are the aforementioned distractions. He is a solo artist who should release solo projects because his writing is that strong. No one is doing what he has been doing; much less influencing an entire wave of New-New School cats who are proving effective and efficient. Better beats, no cameos, keep it nasty.
Posted this in the Alchemist thread. This is actually mastered by Joe LaPorta, the guy who did Reloaded and Marcberg. Have a feeling this might have been done during the time they were working on Greenberg, Nights with Chemist, Reloaded (2011-2012). Dope either way though.
gusty wingers wrote:he did get him to master his albums... his first two albums... and then after that who knows who took over the duties... he is a grammy winning producer btw
Labels. Money. Follow it.
hmmm wild joe laporta is back in the mix... and the master
this particular track is produced by a guy named "element"...
not familiar but i thought at first it must be Roc but not the case...
sounds like knowledge is good at picking beats and sounds...
there is a certain air of realness to his music and i think it is clear he understands the concept of a "banger"... "wrinkled feathers" is a roc level street single
this is pretty good and the video he did earlier in the year was also pretty good, I'm coming around on the idea that he might be able to carry a whole album alone without Marci popping up on the every other track
