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nah I think Bogut will be alright.
He won't be an Ostertag.
He seems like he has a good attitude about the game and certainly looks more menacing than Darko. (yes I know Darko doesnt get mins).
Bogut will be a 10 pt 10 rebound guy to start and improve from there
He'll never be a great center but he'll be worthy of a starting role
He won't be an Ostertag.
He seems like he has a good attitude about the game and certainly looks more menacing than Darko. (yes I know Darko doesnt get mins).
Bogut will be a 10 pt 10 rebound guy to start and improve from there
He'll never be a great center but he'll be worthy of a starting role
He got domainted by kentucky. None of the wildcats big men are NBA prospects.stupidregister wrote:The guy is a flat out basketball player. Position doesn't really matter anymore in the league. You got Stoudemire playing center, 6-6 guys playing point guard...if he can play, he can play. Besides, what centers is he going to go up against in the East anyway? Shaq, Eddy Curry?
Right now he reminds me of a Raef LaFrenz who doesn't shoot as much from the outside.
So you really want to take a Raef w/ the first pick, when you have Paul, Williams, and Green waiting.
Some GM is really, really going to regret this...
Kentucky plays great team defense, and lets be honest he didn't really have anyone to pass the ball to.OMNI wrote:He got domainted by kentucky. None of the wildcats big men are NBA prospects.
Randolph Morris will be a good role player for some NBA team./\/\/\/\ beat me to it.
If I had the pick Id go green but even if he's only as good a Vlade then some team will get a great addition.
Williams sucks a fucking dick. Fuck that bamma ass motherfucker and that whole softbatch, bitchmade, sissy-color sporting team.OMNI wrote:He got domainted by kentucky. None of the wildcats big men are NBA prospects.stupidregister wrote:The guy is a flat out basketball player. Position doesn't really matter anymore in the league. You got Stoudemire playing center, 6-6 guys playing point guard...if he can play, he can play. Besides, what centers is he going to go up against in the East anyway? Shaq, Eddy Curry?
Right now he reminds me of a Raef LaFrenz who doesn't shoot as much from the outside.
So you really want to take a Raef w/ the first pick, when you have Paul, Williams, and Green waiting.
Some GM is really, really going to regret this...
...bitches.
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evidence one of Omni not knowing what the fuck he's talking about when he has a preconceived notion in his head.OMNI wrote:He got domainted by kentucky. None of the wildcats big men are NBA prospects.stupidregister wrote:The guy is a flat out basketball player. Position doesn't really matter anymore in the league. You got Stoudemire playing center, 6-6 guys playing point guard...if he can play, he can play. Besides, what centers is he going to go up against in the East anyway? Shaq, Eddy Curry?
Right now he reminds me of a Raef LaFrenz who doesn't shoot as much from the outside.
bogut finished the game with 20 points and 12 rebounds. randolph morris was in foul trouble the whole game and only played 5 minutes (yeah Morris SOOOOOOOOOOOOO dominated bogut). the backup centers for the wildcats were picking up fouls left and right too. take it from someone who actually watched the game. Bogut was not dominated. he didn't play his best game but he still played well considering there is no one on his team that provides legit support.
and alleyne is a NBA prospect as a big man for kentucky. in a couple years, he will be at least a top 10 pick.
i'm convinced omni knows nothing about the college game. if i see him talk about any college related sports, i will automatically blind myself with a pair of scissors.
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That's only been the last couple of years, because watching NCAA baseketball is like watching better HS basketball. But i still watch the tourney, and the big games through out the year.Gregg Popabitch wrote:the rest of your post doesn't even matter.OMNI wrote:I admit tthat college sports is not my forte
Deep inside you know Bogut will bust (no homo) and that devastes you because you been hyping him for years.
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Listen to the man.Gregg Popabitch wrote:evidence one of Omni not knowing what the fuck he's talking about when he has a preconceived notion in his head.OMNI wrote:He got domainted by kentucky. None of the wildcats big men are NBA prospects.stupidregister wrote:The guy is a flat out basketball player. Position doesn't really matter anymore in the league. You got Stoudemire playing center, 6-6 guys playing point guard...if he can play, he can play. Besides, what centers is he going to go up against in the East anyway? Shaq, Eddy Curry?
Right now he reminds me of a Raef LaFrenz who doesn't shoot as much from the outside.
bogut finished the game with 20 points and 12 rebounds. randolph morris was in foul trouble the whole game and only played 5 minutes (yeah Morris SOOOOOOOOOOOOO dominated bogut). the backup centers for the wildcats were picking up fouls left and right too. take it from someone who actually watched the game. Bogut was not dominated. he didn't play his best game but he still played well considering there is no one on his team that provides legit support.
and alleyne is a NBA prospect as a big man for kentucky. in a couple years, he will be at least a top 10 pick.
i'm convinced omni knows nothing about the college game. if i see him talk about any college related sports, i will automatically blind myself with a pair of scissors.
There's a lot of self-hate going on here, thinking the man's gonna bust just cause he's white.
honestly, these days knowing college basketball doesn't mean a damn thing as to how well a player will do in the nba... players who dominate in college don't necessarily dominate in the nba. very seldom, in fact, does this happen.Gregg Popabitch wrote:the rest of your post doesn't even matter.OMNI wrote:I admit tthat college sports is not my forte
poppabitch, in a way you are an idiot... the difference between athleticism and basketball skill is that you can teach basketball skill , u can't teach athleticism. and since the college game is nothing like the nba game (where everyone doesn't really start playing until the 3rd quarter) a newly donned nba player out of college more or less starts his basketball career over.
and bogut will have to put 16 and 10 against someone like shaq or duncan in order for me to get some love. hell, even brian grant can put up 16 and 10. bogut will not do that on a regular basis, he's not tough enough...and that's that.
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yes it does. cause people who barely watched college basketball during the arkansas' prime probably thought scotty thurman was gonna be hot shit in the nba.Nl5H wrote:honestly, these days knowing college basketball doesn't mean a damn thing as to how well a player will do in the nba...Gregg Popabitch wrote:the rest of your post doesn't even matter.OMNI wrote:I admit tthat college sports is not my forte
little did they know he barely had any lateral quickness to be able to guard oliver miller and would never beat anyone off the dribble.
if you watch college basketball, you not only see a players strengths but their weaknesses.
the type of person you are describing is someone who glosses over college basketball and just merely looks over someone's stat line.
if basketball skill can be taught, i see almost no instances of this in the nba. the average nba player relies on pure athletic ability to get by. why do you think the quality of the game has gone down? high schoolers want to make the fast buck and bypassed college sports (the arena that is better suited to teaching fundamentals) to do it. in a way can i blame them? no not really. but they have ruined the sport because in the nba, coaches don't have time to worry about teaching players cause they want to win now b/c of lack of job security. basketball skill CAN be taught but it isn't BEING taught, unfortunately.
so in that way, you my friend are the idiot.
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btw, this comment is also stupid b/c you don't need to know college basketball. you just have to see the guy play a good amount of times. 95% of the people here have said they haven't seen him play more then one game. so most of you guys rely on watching clips, secondhand knowledge, and preconceived notions on how you feel about a player?Nl5H wrote:honestly, these days knowing college basketball doesn't mean a damn thing as to how well a player will do in the nba...Gregg Popabitch wrote:the rest of your post doesn't even matter.OMNI wrote:I admit tthat college sports is not my forte
i mean most of you haven't seen gerald green's game besides the McDonald's weekend (which really isn't an accurate guage of a player's ability. no exhibition games are). the difference b/w me and some of the people here (not everyone) is that i'm not ready to call him a future superstar yet until i've seen him play more then one or two games.
i fail to see how most of you make general opinions about players without watching them first. it's beyond me.
You spend this whole thread lecturing Pop about how athleticism is all that matters in the NBA and fundamentals aren't relevant, and then you say you think Sean May's the best player out of the draft?Nl5H wrote:i'll tell you that green is more of a wash than bogut, and marvin williams is somewhere in the middle. the only guy i like in this draft is sean may, and that's saying a lot coming from a duke fan.
Sean May got shut down by a Center with two bum legs (Frazier). The only reason he's been climbing up the draft board is because of his play in the final against a team with zero inside presence.
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He's been dominating serious competition because of his size. Once he hits the NBA, he'll find people who are his size and athletic, then he'll be in trouble until he gets a reliable 15 foot jumper, then he'll be slightly better than average.Nl5H wrote:you rate may badly based on one game? he's been dominating the entire year against serious competition...
Does he even have a post game? If by extremely versatile, you mean "the game of a euro with the tattoos of a Pantera fan", you're right.i like pittsnogle too, cuz he's extremely versatile